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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | GLP - 2015-05-14 9:52 AM My horse turns his nose up at his pellets now if RG isn't in his feed. I thought he was having a mild colic or even ulcers coming back. Nope, 2 days later when the RG came to the feed store and I fed him, he was back to his feed gobbling self. Mix it with their old feed and they should get used to it.
If I mix too many alfalfa pellets in with my horse's RG, he will swirl his nose around in there and throw pellets all over trying to "dig" out the RG. He LOVES it. The other refused to eat it for the longest time. I started with just rice bran, then started giving him the RG with beet pulp and he gobbles it up. |
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 Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | turtleaut - 2015-05-14 9:29 AM
I just started RG this week.  My horses are turned out 24/7 and have plenty of grass - should I still add some alfalfa pellets? They were previously on Safechoice Sr and beet pulp. I am slowly switching over so they are still getting a little Sr mixed in with about 3/4 pound of RG Â
My senior horse has to be fed twice a day, so I feed the alfalfa pellets to the other two so they're not feeling left out in the morning. They get Renew Gold in the evenings, and just enough alfalfa pellets in the morning so they have something to do. They would both still look great without them. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Tatum2 - 2015-05-14 8:48 AM UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-05-14 9:33 AM Last night was a our first night to try it. I have one mare the usually dives into her grain but she did not do this with the RG. Anyone have anything similar happen. All I fed was the RG and nothing mixed in with it. You need to slowly change it over. start mixing it with the old grain and slowly wean them off the old grain and on to RG. I can't believe some horses don't like it. Every one of my horses absolutely LOVES it---and I thought they loved their grain before!
Thay hadn't been on any grain for a few months just really good hay. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Gunner11 - 2015-05-14 9:52 AM
winwillows - 2015-05-14 8:54 AM
It seems like everyone scoops RG out of the bag differently. You can scrape excess off of the top of a measuring cup you will fit a pound into four cups. You can just scoop a cup in the bag with some peaked above the rim and get a pound into three cups. The way I do it results in a pound being a little less than 3 1/2 cups. When people ask I tell them "a little over three kitchen measuring cups will be one pound.
When someone says "3 cups", I take it to mean 3 LEVEL cups, not heaping. 
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 Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | HorsesNHarleys - 2015-05-14 9:16 AM Just Bring It - 2015-05-13 1:44 PM I think 4 cups is about 1lb. I believe the green scoop I have is 2 cups (can't tell since all the writing has worn off). I know 1.5lbs is about half a coffee can.
I feed my 2yr old 1lb, my gelding that isn't a hard keeper but needs more feed to keep a nice topline gets 1.5lbs and my hard keeper mare is getting 2.5lbs but I will be dropping her down to 2lbs soon. They have been on it for a little over a month and I am LOVING how they look! My mare looks the best she has ever looked! Super shiny, a very pleasant attitude, and is bulking up! I never thought her hip could look this nice. She is 9yrs old and is looking like a completely different horse. I cannot wait to see what she looks like once she has been on it longer and it gets turned out on grass. I have finally found a feed that I am sticking with. I am finally super happy and confident with my feed program. Before it just felt like a guessing game. Is this once a day or twice a day?
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Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-05-14 9:33 AM Last night was a our first night to try it. I have one mare the usually dives into her grain but she did not do this with the RG. Anyone have anything similar happen. All I fed was the RG and nothing mixed in with it.
Yes, my horses didn't care for it right away either. It just took them a little while to get use to it but now they love it. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | Just Bring It - 2015-05-14 12:20 PM UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-05-14 9:33 AM Last night was a our first night to try it. I have one mare the usually dives into her grain but she did not do this with the RG. Anyone have anything similar happen. All I fed was the RG and nothing mixed in with it. Yes, my horses didn't care for it right away either. It just took them a little while to get use to it but now they love it.
Ditto. One of my geldings would take a bite and spit it out. I couldn't get him to eat it for anything. Mixed it in with his old grains, put liquid 747 in (which he loves), tried just starving him out. The nard would pick up every little bit of feed around the RG and leave it behind. I finally started mixing it with beet pulp and he started eating it. |
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| Both my horses loved it but FELL APART for the 3 months they were on it. Coats became dull and wirey, Would shed out on neck and butt and grow hair on the barrel. Took them off and within a week both were slicked off and filled out. I really wanted it to work, just did not happen. |
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Location: Texas | I have fed RG for almost a year. My horses really went down hill this past winter & now this spring. Usually they look their very best in the spring after they are shed out & with the green grass. But they both got ribby & thin looking. I dewormed, but that didn't help. I finally had to face the fact that the RG wasn't working and had to switch. I really wanted it to work too. |
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Location: Willows, CA | If a horse does not eat RG right away it is usually because they are switching from a higher starch and sugar level feed (read candy bar) to a feed that does not taste as sweet. Once they figure out that it is food, the issue goes away. I am not saying that every horse on the planet will love it, just the vast majority of them. On the horses that shed funny or do not maintain weight, reading the responses from many, many users shows how rare this is. Especially if more than one or all of the horses that you feed have the same issue. A problem holding condition would point to a lack of total calories in the diet, or an inability to efficiently process the calories that are being eaten. Body condition is a function of calories needed by the horse vs calories digested. If they are not holding condition, they are simply not digesting enough calories. If more than one horse has this issue it is usually not enough roughage, not enough calories in the roughage that is being offered to the horse, or a teeth issue that is keeping the horse from properly chewing the roughage so that it can be properly digested in the hind gut. If the horse is on pasture but its teeth make it uncomfortable to chew they simply eat less, even though they have access to all that they need. All of these are issues that we run into fairly regularly, and usually solve fairly easily. We talked about the strange shedding, and quite honestly it is the only time I have heard this in half a million bags of RG sold. There is clearly something going on there, but for once I will have to admit that I have no answer for the situation. It is strange that this happened to all the horses fed at this one location, without ever seeing this anywhere else before or since. Those of you who feed RG can attest to the skin and coat condition it gives. At any rate, no feed is perfect for every horse, but a normal digestive function is. Limit starch and sugar to the amount that a horse can digest in the small intestine, provide the best roughage you can, and don't underestimate the importance of proper condition of your horses teeth. These three things will give you a foundation for your feeding program that will save you money and give you a healthier horse in the long run. |
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Location: west of East Texas | I started feeding RG to an injured horse that had been on stall lockup for about 6 weeks at that point. Her body condition had sunk so low it was scary. She went from a big, overly fluffy girl on fulltime pasture with little feed to 6x the feed, constant access to hay, added alfalfa cubes but lost several hundred pounds. (She's 16h and massive build). I've been gradually transitioning her over the last three weeks. She's up to 2# RG plus the old feed and fulltime hay access. I haven't noticed much change in her body condition yet but I have noticed her increase in appetite. She charges into her food and eats twice the amount of hay. I'm waiting on her to fill up. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I am so happy RG is working for my horses. I love the fact I'm not feeding them a ton of grain and they have actually put on a lot of weight! I just feed the RG with timothy hay, and 1 flake of alfafa hay at night.  |
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Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | My horse has been on RG for a little over a month and I am super impressed BUT of course I cannot give it all the credit. I also put her on Forco and she has been on omeprazole for possible ulcers (never had her scoped but symptoms pointed that way) for about 3 weeks. I don't have a real recent pic yet but she is looking amazing! She just seems filled out in all the right places finally! This mare is not an easy keeper by any means and is always super lean but now the ribcage is finally disappearing which was near impossible before no matter how much feed she was getting. Her topline is filling out and she has a crease on the top of her rump. She is getting a soggy hip...love that! Plus she is so shiny! She is so slick (other than a few hairs on her barrel and legs yet).
She is also on alfalfa hay, alfalfa/beet pulp pellets, and free choice hay.
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | Been feeding RG for a couple of months now, and for the most part I love it. All 3 of my horses shed their wintercoat in no time at all. And my 2 easy keepers look great.
The only 1 I still add Purina Sr to is my 26 year old mare. She has issues keeping the weight on. I have her on 1.5# RG, 3# Purina Sr, alfalfa a day. And I just started her on calf manna too.
Before I had her on safechoice sr, and I loved how she looked with that, but with all the issues I changed her to RG. Well, she went downhill fast with just RG, so I added the Purina Sr. I still don't like giving her that much grain, but I guess I don't have a choice.
And all of them are only in the stall at feeding time. The rest they are out in the pasture, and with the rain we've been having lately the grass is very nice and green.
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I've been feeding it and just started the third bag. She gets whole oats and coconut oil with it and 2 flakes alfalfa. I fenced off part of the yard so she can get some grass, but there's not a ton. She looks really good. She's a horse that doesn't thrive easily. She shed out super fast - I barely remember it happening. I will try to attach a picture.
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 Mature beyond Years
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I'm feeding Renew Gold and Buckeye to my mare (had a bag of Cadence Ultra and decided to use it all up) and THE GastroPlus and once that is done, I'll switch her over to THE MuscleMass. I noticed my mare is still super slow to shed out BUT she's always been slow. Frustrates me. But she is looking really good. Getting a topline and her shoulder muscles just pop! Wow. The best thing is normally this horse acts like a rocket launched grenade on any type of grain and she's been pretty level headed right now. |
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 I hate cooking and cleaning
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Location: Jersey Girl | Who carries this? I am in NJ and the store locator on the website does not work. |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | fulltiltfilly - 2015-05-17 9:17 AM Who carries this? I am in NJ and the store locator on the website does not work.
Do you have Tractor Supply there? They carry it. If they don't have it in stock you can pester the manager and they should be able to order it for you. You can ask winwillows if he can help you out too. |
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Location: Willows, CA | We are in the process of a complete redesign of our web site. The dealer locator is not up. Just call and we will get you a store near you. 530-934-9300. |
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The Advice Guru
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| bccanchaser16 - 2015-05-17 12:43 AM
 I'm feeding Renew Gold and Buckeye to my mare (had a bag of Cadence Ultra and decided to use it all up) and THE GastroPlus and once that is done, I'll switch her over to THE MuscleMass. I noticed my mare is still super slow to shed out BUT she's always been slow. Frustrates me. But she is looking really good. Getting a topline and her shoulder muscles just pop! Wow. The best thing is normally this horse acts like a rocket launched grenade on any type of grain and she's been pretty level headed right now.
Are you getting renew gold in Canada, if so who is carrying it? |
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