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Location: So. Cali. | I am curious, who has actually consulted in someone who provides Thermal Imaging for horses to help solve an issue?
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | We did several years ago when we couldn't find lameness in a TB horse. We blocked from the feet to the shoulder and still didn't find anything. Hauled him to New Bolton Center and they found he had cracked 3 ribs. |
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Location: SW MO | I have seen two vets who use thermal immaging, both found sources of soreness in multiple horses with lameness that was unidentifiable. I think it's a very useful tool IMO |
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 I Want a "MAN"
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Location: MD | I've used it I agree it is a very useful tool. Really awesome! |
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| I did. It showed my horse was compensating his body and after x raying his foot, we found angles to be off with bones in his foot |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | I have used Thermal Imaging on quite a few occasions through the years. I have found it to be extremely helpful in cases where we know something is wrong, but can't pinpoint what it is. Great diagnostic tool to point you in the proper direction. |
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| I have used it and had great luck. BUT you need it to be done by a reputable vet with higher dollar equipment. The quick course on Facebook with a phone app isn't going to do the trick. |
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Too busy outside!
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| total performance - 2015-07-21 9:30 AM We did several years ago when we couldn't find lameness in a TB horse. We blocked from the feet to the shoulder and still didn't find anything. Hauled him to New Bolton Center and they found he had cracked 3 ribs.
Wow- I'm surprised they couldn't find three cracked ribs with hands on palpation? Even if they had healed and were no longer painful there would have been calcification lumps on them- very interesting. |
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Too busy outside!
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| I'm the odd one out- again, I guess. I was fortunate enough to be able to demo some of the new Flair cameras when they first came out, and I wasn't impressed with them, simply because they were expensive for what they offered, and the conditions they need to be used in in order to be even somewhat useful are hard to find in a clinic, and impossible to find out in the field. What people don't understand I think is that these thermal imaging cameras are surface thermographers. They read surface temperature- and then create a pretty image to go along with it. We tried these on a variety of horses, and even ourselves, and couldn't get anything subtle to show up. Except for if there was a subtle breeze, the surface temp would change, if there was more shade on one side of the horse than the other, the temp would change. It could show obvious temp changes- like where a wrap was just removed, or a sweat pattern was- but we could feel those with our hands so didn't know why anyone would need to have equipment to help them with that. Plus- there were so many ways to vary the temp settings on the camera that it was easy to make something insignificant look like hot inflammation- just depending on the range you set your temps at. Anyway, those are my thoughts- I'd love to find a vet who uses them so I could ask them why they use them- I just personally have not come across any performance horse vets who use them. jmho- :)
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Miracle in the Making
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| i like the radioactive stuff you inject goes to hard tissue then soft it will find the lamesness issue
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Too busy outside!
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| vjls - 2015-07-22 8:43 AM i like the radioactive stuff you inject goes to hard tissue then soft it will find the lamesness issue
no ne vets
Nuclear scintography is far and above superior to thermal imaging..... in fact, a thermal camera looks pretty much like a gimmicky toy in comparison... |
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| A friend of mine had her horse looked over from head to toe, blocked, x-rayed multiple areas, scoped, etc... finally thermal imaging showed a broken splint bone. She wasnt lame either. Everyone once in awhile her stride seemed off but thermal imaging helped pinpoint. |
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Rad Dork
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Location: Oklahoma | I hauled to vet once to have some shockwave treatments done and he had one.. he was very happy to use it and loved it, but it didn't find anything that I hadn't already found from blocking/x raying and ultrasounding. I'm sure that it's better than nothing and probably a good tool when you're at a complete loss, but I just had a bone scan done last week and I'm sold on that for a mystery lameness diagnosis. |
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Too busy outside!
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| stayceem - 2015-07-22 9:36 AM A friend of mine had her horse looked over from head to toe, blocked, x-rayed multiple areas, scoped, etc... finally thermal imaging showed a broken splint bone. She wasnt lame either. Everyone once in awhile her stride seemed off but thermal imaging helped pinpoint.
A popped splint usually isn't that hard to identify- and they are mostly just cosmetic flaws once healed. |
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