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| Just bought an open horse, finished solid super honest super easy to ride. well, I'm having a problem with her head gear.
When i went to try her, owners said she would ride in pretty much anything. he had her in a bit called "the perfect bit" (ropers bit) and a very tight rope tie down. Next time i tired her, had her in an o ring and loose wire tie down. This mare is SO easy to ride, you just let her do all the work.. if you get in her mouth she'll climb up the backside of barrels, or better known as "get hung up"… well thats exactly what she did my first run on her as her new owner, i had her in a small lifter bit with a snug, not tight but snub cable tie down, and she got hung up behind every barrel.
She super honest and the more i ride her i realize she doesn't need any lift, she is as honest as the day is long. But its almost like she doesn't want to finish her turns, so when i go to grab her to finish eh back side of her turn she pops up! so i can't decide if i need to tighter her tie down or just give her, her head??
I was told her didn't need tuning at home, although she would. but to just ride her in draw bit and draw reins to keep her legged up and round.
So what would y'all do with a horse that doesn't finish her turns but you have to stay out of her mouth or she'll get hung up? what would you try to ride her in bit wise? i was thinking a sherry cervi to get her to bend a little more, or maybe a loomis gag bit? she is naturally a more stiff mare. |
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| Honestly, try trusting her and not asking her to finish tight with your reins and see what happens. Worst case is she doesn't finish them. Then you know that's not going to work. Maybe try finishing the barrel with your outside leg and kid of neck rein more than direct rein and just guide. If that makes sense... Lol |
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 I Want a "MAN"
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Location: MD | I am no one to give advice to about this because I've had a horse for 3 years that still does this but with mine its all about the entrance. Make sure you're riding her into your pocket so she has plenty of room and then on the backside just guide her around it don't pull. |
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | My gelding did this at the first barrel, and I thought I was not fast enough pitching him forward.... well, turns out I needed to drive him through the turn more....
Might not be the case in your situation, but I like to try different things before changing headgear.
And like the other poster mentioned, just trusting her, let her do her job and see where you end up. She might surprise you. Good luck, and let us know how she is doing!
Oh, by the way.... did we see pictures of this new horse yet..... you know if no pics, it didn't happen!!!  |
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Location: NW. Florida | Vidoes would help. |
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| First thing that popped into my head - take off the tie down
Youll probably be surprised with those results |
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| I don't know how to attach videos, and also, i was thinking also to take the tie down off, but its not like when i ran her i had a super tight hard tie down? it was just a cable one. but she's 10 you would figure the people that ran her before me would take the tie down off if they didn't like it, the pervious owners owned her for 7 years before selling her to me. |
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| Is the whole tie down cable; nose, pole and cheeks? |
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| Since you described her as more of a finished horse, you may just have to find out how to stay out of her way.
But it could also be the case as with younger horses, they don't move their feet throughout the turn and get "hung up" on the back side. When they get to the hang up spot, they climb because they have no where else to go since they don't know where to move their feet. When this happens with young horses, I go back to the very basics of one rein stops. When those are mastered bringing the front quarters through smoothly. Walking in circles with just the inside corner of the eye showing, etc. I work up to where the exercises can be done at the trot and then lope. If they can't bring their front end around smoothly at the walk, then they probably can't do it at the run. |
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Porta Potty Pants
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| Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2015-07-29 3:54 PM
I don't know how to attach videos, and also, i was thinking also to take the tie down off, but its not like when i ran her i had a super tight hard tie down? it was just a cable one. but she's 10 you would figure the people that ran her before me would take the tie down off if they didn't like it, the pervious owners owned her for 7 years before selling her to me.
I would probably try taking the tie down off or using a leather one. A mare I bought one time came with a "head setter" rope tie down (not sure if I'm saying that right) … but after several frustrating runs … we just communicated better without one and I won that way. Your hands are different than the people you bought her from …
Good Luck! |
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Location: Spur Texas | I would call the previous owner and ask for help or go and get a lesson from them. If they owned her for 7 years, surely they can help you. |
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| I agree with everyone on giving her face back to her... loosen or lose the tie-down, drive her into position and trust her on the backside, because it sounds like she is reacting to being all bound up coming out of the turns. Keep in mind, however, that she has probably been doing this for a long time, so it could be habit by now and might not be an immediate fix. At home maybe even try tapping her on the butt with an over and under or something to encourage her to flatten out and stretch her stride for the next barrel. You can do circles around them as well to ensure that she is extending out and reaching in her stride.. You need to show her that is what you want and that she isn't going to be all bound up or pulled on coming out of the turn... |
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| Run her with a running martingale, then she should stay in your hands a bit better when you ask for something, tie downs are not really for barrel horses, although some like them to lean on. The horse is hollowing out and elevating and not staying in to her bit or under herself to power out of the turn (on the backside). This is where they should be collected and ready to fire out of the turn on to the next one. If she is trying to get away from you, using your legs will help tremendously by holding her and keeping her up under herself to finish the turn, the martingale should also keep her softer to your hand, if and when you do have to grab her to also keep her collected. Together your legs and martingale should do the trick. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Maybe put her back in the headgear you tried her in? The bits that you described that you tried her in have no gag action whatsoever. |
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 Lady Di
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Location: Oklahoma | I would take her to a good lameness vet and make sure that her hocks and stifles don't need injected. I had one that would do that (stall out behind) and as soon as his hocks were injected, he quit doing that and kept moving around the barrels. I also had him chiro'ed and he needed it bad. Both of those things fixed it on him, so if you haven't done that, I would start there. Oh, and get her teeth checked. That can sometimes cause it, as well. |
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| dianeguinn - 2015-07-30 2:07 PM
I would take her to a good lameness vet and make sure that her hocks and stifles don't need injected. I had one that would do that (stall out behind) and as soon as his hocks were injected, he quit doing that and kept moving around the barrels. I also had him chiro'ed and he needed it bad. Both of those things fixed it on him, so if you haven't done that, I would start there. Oh, and get her teeth checked. That can sometimes cause it, as well.
I agree. Then a clinic with someone qualified. Then a change in headgear. |
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| YALL I GOT IT FIGURED OUT!! i had her vetted before i bought her (2 weeks ago) and she is sound, her teeth are fine. but had chiro out and she was out in her right shoulder and left hip. Put a loose bonnet on her and she is a NEW horse. felt like the horse i tried out 2 weeks ago!!
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | Well good. I was going to say try a bonnet but you beat me to it!
Also a draw bit can help as well. |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2015-07-30 5:53 PM
YALL I GOT IT FIGURED OUT!! i had her vetted before i bought her (2 weeks ago) and she is sound, her teeth are fine. but had chiro out and she was out in her right shoulder and left hip. Put a loose bonnet on her and she is a NEW horse. felt like the horse i tried out 2 weeks ago!!
Woo hoo!! Glad y'all are lined out and ready to run now---congrats |
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