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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-08-04 9:41 AM
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So sorry. My gelding did that last year and we've just given him some time. Hopefully they'll both come back strong.
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DLV
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2015-08-04 10:48 AM
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I had the same thing happen to a gelding I had JUST bought for 10k and I was heartbroken as well, the vet said he didn't know if he'd ever run again but I did exactly as the vet instructed and more and less than 4 mos later, I got the approval to leg him back up! I was nervous at first, took a while for me to convince myself he was ok but now he's been running over 3yrs with NO incidentsw whatsoever, he made a complete recovery, the vet couldn't believe it. Hopefully this is an inspiring story for you!
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halter_ego
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2015-08-04 11:51 AM
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Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one.  The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me.  I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs.  It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same.  

I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off. 
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2H~QH
Reg. Jul 2014
Posted 2015-08-04 2:42 PM
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So sorry ..... is it a hind or front? The prognosis for hind limbs is worse unfortunately.
My good horse has been off for the last 6 months with bilateral hind limb suspensory branch tears. Last u/s showed just scarring, now I am stressing on what to do to try to cut down on the scar tissue - as you know they are much more likely to tear at the scar tissue again. I have heard good things about stem cell injections, but have never tried them myself. ... I took the IVAS acupuncture course a few years ago, so I may look up some acupoints to needle or moxa. I've had good luck needling ligament damage in dogs, so may as well experiment on my own horse, LOL....anyway...sending prayers for healing your way!!
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-04 5:36 PM
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2H~QH - 2015-08-04 2:42 PM

So sorry ..... is it a hind or front? The prognosis for hind limbs is worse unfortunately.
My good horse has been off for the last 6 months with bilateral hind limb suspensory branch tears. Last u/s showed just scarring, now I am stressing on what to do to try to cut down on the scar tissue - as you know they are much more likely to tear at the scar tissue again. I have heard good things about stem cell injections, but have never tried them myself. ... I took the IVAS acupuncture course a few years ago, so I may look up some acupoints to needle or moxa. I've had good luck needling ligament damage in dogs, so may as well experiment on my own horse, LOL....anyway...sending prayers for healing your way!!

Left hind :/
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-04 5:42 PM
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halter_ego - 2015-08-04 11:51 AM

Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one. Β The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me. Β I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs. Β It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same. Β 

I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off.Β 

I have several really good lameness vets. I'm in vet school myself so I'm really picky on who my horses go to as I know a lot of the inside knowledge on people. LOL.


First vet visit- routine hock injections based on her history and what has normally worked for her. lameness exam supported LH lameness.

2nd visit- came back when hock injections didnt get the results I wanted/expected. used the lameness locator, blocked her stifle, got improvement on lameness locator so we injected both stifles. also had some LF lameness so radiographed her feet and adjusted her front shoes to get her angles a little better.

3rd visit- dental only no lameness exam

4th visit- different vet had her back re injected and re radiographed to check on her one kissing lesion.

5th visit- back to original vet, lameness locator again, LH lame again, did a low 6 block and she got a little better. did a suspensory block and lameness is gone. ultrasounded once but too much fluid from the nerve blocks to get a great picture.


Okay so I guess it's 5, not 6 visits. So she will be going back for visit #6 in two weeks.

ETA- also, as previously said.. Stem Cells are out of the question. Just not in my budget. Even with whatever discounts I get at school. PRP is a thought but given the duration of her injury they wouldn't give that great of a benefit and it is a lot shorter lived than stem cells. I do have runners relief. The other real world realization here is... with my schedule and course work.. and my pending graduation.. realistically speaking I may not get to run very much anymore, so I'm not sure it's worth the investment in stem cells when I may be so busy she's turned out and bred regardless.

Edited by casualdust07 2015-08-04 5:46 PM
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2015-08-04 6:37 PM
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casualdust07 - 2015-08-04 5:42 PM

halter_ego - 2015-08-04 11:51 AM

Find a "lameness" vet, if you aren't already working with one. Β The fact that it took 6 visits to pin point a suspensory worries me. Β I did the same thing with a couple horses I have had, now I will not use anyone other than a lameness/ performance horse vet for legs. Β It's like going to a general practioner for an orthopedic injury, just isn't the same. Β 

I have a lot of faith in stem cell, and a GOOD/proven rehab program, many times no justice is done with time off.Β 

I have several really good lameness vets. I'm in vet school myself so I'm really picky on who my horses go to as I know a lot of the inside knowledge on people. LOL.


First vet visit- routine hock injections based on her history and what has normally worked for her. lameness exam supported LH lameness.

2nd visit- came back when hock injections didnt get the results I wanted/expected. used the lameness locator, blocked her stifle, got improvement on lameness locator so we injected both stifles. also had some LF lameness so radiographed her feet and adjusted her front shoes to get her angles a little better.

3rd visit- dental only no lameness exam

4th visit- different vet had her back re injected and re radiographed to check on her one kissing lesion.

5th visit- back to original vet, lameness locator again, LH lame again, did a low 6 block and she got a little better. did a suspensory block and lameness is gone. ultrasounded once but too much fluid from the nerve blocks to get a great picture.


Okay so I guess it's 5, not 6 visits. So she will be going back for visit #6 in two weeks.

ETA- also, as previously said.. Stem Cells are out of the question. Just not in my budget. Even with whatever discounts I get at school. PRP is a thought but given the duration of her injury they wouldn't give that great of a benefit and it is a lot shorter lived than stem cells. I do have runners relief. The other real world realization here is... with my schedule and course work.. and my pending graduation.. realistically speaking I may not get to run very much anymore, so I'm not sure it's worth the investment in stem cells when I may be so busy she's turned out and bred regardless.

My mare was never really lame... We ended up doing a bone scan and that's when they found it....
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outrundaizy
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2015-08-04 10:49 PM
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I think it sounds smart to turn her out next year, it worked with Lucy!

Plus you won't have to worry about her as much, you have Lucy to make a few fun runs on next year and you can focus on school, then in 2-3 years when you start getting settled in to your career you will have an awesome baby to start!

I know this must be horrible to deal with, but I know she will recover and come back stronger than ever! Just remember god always has a plan.. 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-08-05 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Can I cry now?? So heartbroken



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Yep!! I am seeing the positive in all of this. I was really pleased when after I did everything with Lucy, giving her a year off just really helped her. I'm not going to just chunk Bunny in a pasture- believe me she runs and plays too hard and she wouldn't make any progress on her own!
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