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| So I want to know everyone's opinions,
I have a crown c now and have had them for the past few years. I love them.
But I've always been curious about the treeless, especially the Bob Marshell.
I like the way a crown c evenly as possibly distributes pressure and with the wider gullets allows a horse to grow. I've had a 7 and now have a 9 and 9.5.
tho iv never rode in a Bob Marshell, they look like you would get a really nice feel of the horse and to me it doesn't look like the would pinch as bad in the back as some saddles, i guess the wither would be a different story,
do they pinch horses?! can they still allow a horses back to grow?
for anyone that has both, which do you prefer??
thanks for all of your input:)
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| I had both, sold my Bob Marshall. I ride better in the Crown C. I ride better in any treed saddle. BUT I feel like my horse runs better in the treeless. So now I'm saving up for another treeless but won't part with my Crown C.
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Location: North Dakota | Ok so with a treeless, you are going to really be able to feel your horse underneath you, which I like but it makes some people feel insecure. It depends. For the horse, if your crown c fits, a treeless saddle won't necessarily be better for the horse. While it does not have tree points or bridging to worry about, the swell and cantle are rigid so if the pommel is too narrow that'll pinch your horse. Also, treeless saddles don't distribute weight like a tree does so if you're bouncy or heavy (200lbs+) you'll want to avoid them. |
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-10 3:08 PM
Ok so with a treeless, you are going to really be able to feel your horse underneath you, which I like but it makes some people feel insecure. It depends. For the horse, if your crown c fits, a treeless saddle won't necessarily be better for the horse. While it does not have tree points or bridging to worry about, the swell and cantle are rigid so if the pommel is too narrow that'll pinch your horse. Also, treeless saddles don't distribute weight like a tree does so if you're bouncy or heavy (200lbs+) you'll want to avoid them.
Thank you for your input!
My crown c's are too wide for my colts. but there's hope they will grow into them lol
and i don't weigh too much yet hahah (110 lbs)
I sold the horse that my 9.5 inch crown c fit and bought another horse. so as of right now, none fit the crown c's perfect. we are growing lol
on average, how wide are the cantles and pommels on treeless saddles? 7 inches?! |
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| I am borrowing a friends Tammy Fischer right now. While I love it on one horse, I don't like it on the rest I ride. I guess I feel I am more comfortable riding in the Crown C on the majority of my horses versus the treeless. Sometimes I feel like the treeless helps me stay secure, and other times I feel trapped and can't get ahead. It's going to come down to your preference and your horses running style. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | I have a Tammy Fischer. My gelding is too quick for me to ride in anything else. I ride in a CSI with a thick wool blanket. I do not feel my horse's back like I used to. |
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| I don't have a Bob Marshall, but I have a Circle Y Just B Natural. I also have a custom on Crown C tree saddle. I prefer the treeless. The Crown C is good on one horse but does not fit the other one worth a darn....And supposedly they said it fit him perfect. Yeah right.
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| Nateracer, have you ever rode a JJ treeless? If so could you tell me how they are similar and different. I have rode a JJ and liked it, but have been curious about the JBN treeless. Thanks! |
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| lmulrony - 2015-01-12 2:12 PM Nateracer, have you ever rode a JJ treeless? If so could you tell me how they are similar and different. I have rode a JJ and liked it, but have been curious about the JBN treeless. Thanks!
No, I could never find one to ride or sit in prior to purchasing the JBN. I would have like to have tried it...They're cheaper! I tried a Tammy Fisher and hated the feel of it compared to the JBN, but I know the JJ is supposed to be different. |
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Location: North Dakota | zansbeunogal_2268 - 2015-01-12 10:15 AM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-10 3:08 PM Ok so with a treeless, you are going to really be able to feel your horse underneath you, which I like but it makes some people feel insecure. It depends. For the horse, if your crown c fits, a treeless saddle won't necessarily be better for the horse. While it does not have tree points or bridging to worry about, the swell and cantle are rigid so if the pommel is too narrow that'll pinch your horse. Also, treeless saddles don't distribute weight like a tree does so if you're bouncy or heavy (200lbs+) you'll want to avoid them. Thank you for your input! My crown c's are too wide for my colts. but there's hope they will grow into them lol and i don't weigh too much yet hahah (110 lbs ) I sold the horse that my 9.5 inch crown c fit and bought another horse. so as of right now, none fit the crown c's perfect. we are growing lol on average, how wide are the cantles and pommels on treeless saddles? 7 inches?!
Yeah I don't think you have to worry about weight lol! I'm not sure how wide the Bob Marshall's are, but the Circle Y's have a medium and wide. I've never measured it exactly but I would say it's 6 3/4 to 7" at the most. |
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| What I read I really liked it. Thank you for your information!
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Nateracer - 2015-01-12 3:32 PM lmulrony - 2015-01-12 2:12 PM Nateracer, have you ever rode a JJ treeless? If so could you tell me how they are similar and different. I have rode a JJ and liked it, but have been curious about the JBN treeless. Thanks! No, I could never find one to ride or sit in prior to purchasing the JBN. I would have like to have tried it...They're cheaper! I tried a Tammy Fisher and hated the feel of it compared to the JBN, but I know the JJ is supposed to be different.
I've ridden in all three and the JBN is kind of in the middle between the Tammy and the Jackie in terms of holding you in. The Tammy felt really restrictive to me but it sure sat me on my butt. The JBN still sat me down but a bit more upright in the cantle and pommel and the Jackie was juuuuust right. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Not to get off topic here, but I have a JBN. Just curious if you that ride in them have the wide version or the regular? And what type of pad do you use?
i put my JBN up for sale because the back rings are pushing into my mares sides now that she's thickened up. The saddles been ridden in like ten times. So I'd rather not sell it, but my pads are doing her zero justice. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | I've had a crown c and loved it but colt grew out of it too quick. Rode BM for a long time. One really big and wide gelding I had ran in the top of the 2D with a treed saddle but ran 3-4 tenths faster with a BM. Now I have a JJ and I really like it. The seat is a little more firm than the BM and I don't feel as confined in it. Also tried the TF and did not like it at all. It's really hard to fit saddles to colts. |
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| I have ridden in a BM treeless off and on for about 15 years. I ride all my colts in the BM but you will need to play with what pad works best for the horse. On my 3 year old with high withers i use a CSI pad. On my older wider horses i use a 1/2 inch 5 star. The BM saddle fits everything i have and i never have back soreness issues. |
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