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| NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | vjls - 2015-08-08 8:31 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$. how do the get a drivers license?
Twelve states and the District of Columbia enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain a driver’s licenses. The states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington, they will issue a license if they provide documentation, such as a foreign birth certificate, a foreign passport, etc. and evidence of current residency in the state.
Yes, Karen, many are paid under the table but there are millions that are working in restaurants, motels, meat packing plants, production plants, etc., etc. that are paying "federal" taxes. Like I mentioned....The employers could care less because they get them cheaper and as employee tax deductions and our government could care less as long as they get the $$$$ |
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           Location: Florida.. | NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:52 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:31 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$. how do the get a drivers license? Twelve states and the District of Columbia enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain a driver’s licenses. The states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington, they will issue a license if they provide documentation, such as a foreign birth certificate, a foreign passport, etc. and evidence of current residency in the state.
Yes, Karen, many are paid under the table but there are millions that are working in restaurants, motels, meat packing plants, production plants, etc., etc. that are paying "federal" taxes. Like I mentioned....The employers could care less because they get them cheaper and as employee tax deductions and our government could care less as long as they get the $$$$
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 8:58 PM
NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:52 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:31 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 9:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it  They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.  They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$. how do the get a drivers license? Twelve states and the District of Columbia enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain a driver’s licenses. The states are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington, they will issue a license if they provide documentation, such as a foreign birth certificate, a foreign passport, etc. and evidence of current residency in the state.
Yes, Karen, many are paid under the table but there are millions that are working in restaurants, motels, meat packing plants, production plants, etc., etc. that are paying "federal" taxes. Like I mentioned....The employers could care less because they get them cheaper and as employee tax deductions and our government could care less as long as they get the $$$$
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I worked with them for several years in Idaho....They ALL declare a wife and 7 kids on the W4 so they have the least taken out that they can. At the end of the year they just don't file. They quit and move t the next farm down the road and do the same thing for another year. |
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    Location: Colorado | NJJ - 2015-08-08 8:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$.
They pay plenty of taxes. Payroll, sales tax, etc..
It is so easy to blame Mexico. How about blaming the people who are hiring them?? The ones who are employing illegals are doing more damage to this country than the illegals are. Look at what it has done to wages in the construction industry. How many of us have been in barns where there are several working? Does that not take jobs from citizens?
Yes, those who enter the country illegally have broken laws. Those who hire them have broken laws and thumbed their noses at fellow citizens. So who is more at fault?
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Stitch4k9 - 2015-08-08 11:15 PM NJJ - 2015-08-08 8:16 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything
i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it  They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.  They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$. They pay plenty of taxes.  Payroll, sales tax, etc.. Â
It is so easy to blame Mexico. Â How about blaming the people who are hiring them?? Â The ones who are employing illegals are doing more damage to this country than the illegals are. Â Look at what it has done to wages in the construction industry. Â How many of us have been in barns where there are several working? Â Does that not take jobs from citizens? Â
Yes, those who enter the country illegally have broken laws. Â Those who hire them have broken laws and thumbed their noses at fellow citizens. Â So who is more at fault?
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Not really. In all the years I worked in the dairy industry in Idaho, I saw two white milkers.... I was one of them. The do pay quite a bit in different forms and they don't have the paperwork needed to draw any of it back out. So it's free money for the state and federal governments. That's one of the reasons a lot of states are not in a hurry to get them thrown out. |
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| NJJ - 2015-08-08 8:16 PM
Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 7:58 PM vjls - 2015-08-08 8:11 PM question how do illegalls work how do they pay income taxes how do the do anything legal i have to show i d for everything i havw a 1099 with my ss on it i can not board an airplane with out my photo id
but i can vote with no idea what is wrong how do they get around it  They dont pay taxes They DO pay federal income tax. There are plenty of them (undocumented) in the meat packing industry (among other employers). They either use a "false" identification or SS # or the Employers have them apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.  They can get one of them with a foreign birth certificate, driver's license, passport, etc. This number has nothing to do with immigration. The U.S. government could care less, as long as they get their tax $$$$.
Around here they penalize employerĂź for hiring illegals. It was so long ago that Billy Cook inOK was shut down because there was a raid. St8ff fines that g9 up each time they raid. |
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      Location: Arkansas | Bibliafarm - 2015-08-08 8:43 PM
 alot are also paid under the table.
This is pretty much what happens in our area. Or if they get 1099 or W-2 they just chunk them. And move to new job if IRS gets close. Cause as employer you can't fire them for having a "wrong" number. |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | kramerica - 2015-08-08 3:28 PM
I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Â Why don't we go to the source. Â MEXICO. Â Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. Â We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. Â How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order?
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| komet. - 2015-09-06 10:26 PM
kramerica - 2015-08-08 3:28 PM
I'm a Texan and have seen the immigration problem first hand for decades. Â Why don't we go to the source. Â MEXICO. Â Once we hold their feet to the fire, their citizen will have a respectable land to call their own. Â We need to address the total corruption in Mexico and it's leadership, ie., government, cartel and police. Â How 'bout some sanctions for them to get their doodoo in order?
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | There is only one problem with the whole "they pay taxes BS". They get a lot more in services then they pay in. |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2015-09-06 10:49 PM
There is only one problem with the whole "they pay taxes BS". They get a lot more in services then they pay in. Â
No argument here... True story... The problem here is.... So does everyone else that needs to file a claim for pretty much anything beyond comprehensive. It's all about 'averages'. I paid insurance on whatever I was driving for over 30 years and never filed a claim.... Other people did. I've had money sucked out of every paycheck I ever earned and never filed for anything. I know lots of people that work Spring through Autumn and quit to draw unemployment during the winter.... Not because there is no work, but because they don't want to work outside in the cold weather. They sit on their butts for four months and draw a lot more than they paid in.
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         Location: North Dakota | streakysox - 2015-08-08 10:17 AM A city in CA just elected not one but two illegal immigrants to their city council. So now they have people who break the law making the laws for the city. America, land of opportunity.
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| I don't care what age you are and have been in the USA for ages ... it is time to go back to the country you came from and still claim citizenship in so you can make a difference in saving your own country.
I see you waving another country's flag and berating the American flag constantly and belligerently demanding more and more freebies from the America that you hate ... it is time your butt was thrown back across the border with no holds barred!!
Don't forget the huge illegal population that must go also ... our state dept and other government agencies are busy with flipping them to refugee status which is a crock of doo doo .... and they are here to overthrow our government ... period!!
The easy solution is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION AND SEAL ALL FOUR BORDERS OF THE USA ... and start deporting any and all illegals regardless of where you find them .... EMPTYING OUR PRISON'S IS THE FIRST MOVE TO BE MADE AND SAVE A TON OF MONEY ON PRISON COSTS .... and be firm on the fact that illegals have no legal standing to use any of our court systems or laws to remain her on any pretext they might have ... ANOTHER SAVINGS ON ALL THE PUBLIC DEFENDER AND COURT COSTS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ...
and while we are at it repeal the 14th amendment to end the nonsense of being born in the USA gives you automatic citizenship... AND REPEAL THE 16TH AND 17TH AMENDMENTS ...
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD START ....
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-09-07 9:44 AM
I don't care what age you are and have been in the USA for ages ... it is time to go back to the country you came from and still claim citizenship in so you can make a difference in saving your own country.
I see you waving another country's flag and berating the American flag constantly and belligerently demanding more and more freebies from the America that you hate ... it is time your butt was thrown back across the border with no holds barred!!
Don't forget the huge illegal population that must go also ... our state dept and other government agencies are busy with flipping them to refugee status which is a crock of doo doo .... and they are here to overthrow our government ... period!!
The easy solution is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION AND SEAL ALL FOUR BORDERS OF THE USA ... and start deporting any and all illegals regardless of where you find them .... EMPTYING OUR PRISON'S IS THE FIRST MOVE TO BE MADE AND SAVE A TON OF MONEY ON PRISON COSTS .... and be firm on the fact that illegals have no legal standing to use any of our court systems or laws to remain her on any pretext they might have ... ANOTHER SAVINGS ON ALL THE PUBLIC DEFENDER AND COURT COSTS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ...
and while we are at it repeal the 14th amendment to end the nonsense of being born in the USA gives you automatic citizenship... AND REPEAL THE 16TH AND 17TH AMENDMENTS ...
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD START ....
I will help Build the Wall on weekends even!!! I saw on the TV the other day about the real " Conair". Where they fly murders and rapists for FREE by private lear jet to court appearances all over the USA because they are always in some form of appeal from their convictions. Don't we have a way to have those just kind of disappear? |
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         Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-09-08 9:26 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-09-07 9:44 AM I don't care what age you are and have been in the USA for ages ... it is time to go back to the country you came from and still claim citizenship in so you can make a difference in saving your own country. I see you waving another country's flag and berating the American flag constantly and belligerently demanding more and more freebies from the America that you hate ... it is time your butt was thrown back across the border with no holds barred!! Don't forget the huge illegal population that must go also ... our state dept and other government agencies are busy with flipping them to refugee status which is a crock of doo doo .... and they are here to overthrow our government ... period!! The easy solution is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION AND SEAL ALL FOUR BORDERS OF THE USA ... and start deporting any and all illegals regardless of where you find them .... EMPTYING OUR PRISON'S IS THE FIRST MOVE TO BE MADE AND SAVE A TON OF MONEY ON PRISON COSTS .... and be firm on the fact that illegals have no legal standing to use any of our court systems or laws to remain her on any pretext they might have ... ANOTHER SAVINGS ON ALL THE PUBLIC DEFENDER AND COURT COSTS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ... and while we are at it repeal the 14th amendment to end the nonsense of being born in the USA gives you automatic citizenship... AND REPEAL THE 16TH AND 17TH AMENDMENTS ... THIS WOULD BE A GOOD START .... I will help Build the Wall on weekends even!!! I saw on the TV the other day about the real " Conair". Where they fly murders and rapists for FREE by private lear jet to court appearances all over the USA because they are always in some form of appeal from their convictions. Don't we have a way to have those just kind of disappear?
I'll go down and help build the d@mn wall too! And yes, we should put some of those drones to good use and shoot down the "conair" planes. |
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FLITASTIC - 2015-09-08 9:26 AM BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-09-07 9:44 AM I don't care what age you are and have been in the USA for ages ... it is time to go back to the country you came from and still claim citizenship in so you can make a difference in saving your own country. I see you waving another country's flag and berating the American flag constantly and belligerently demanding more and more freebies from the America that you hate ... it is time your butt was thrown back across the border with no holds barred!! Don't forget the huge illegal population that must go also ... our state dept and other government agencies are busy with flipping them to refugee status which is a crock of doo doo .... and they are here to overthrow our government ... period!! The easy solution is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION AND SEAL ALL FOUR BORDERS OF THE USA ... and start deporting any and all illegals regardless of where you find them .... EMPTYING OUR PRISON'S IS THE FIRST MOVE TO BE MADE AND SAVE A TON OF MONEY ON PRISON COSTS .... and be firm on the fact that illegals have no legal standing to use any of our court systems or laws to remain her on any pretext they might have ... ANOTHER SAVINGS ON ALL THE PUBLIC DEFENDER AND COURT COSTS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW ... and while we are at it repeal the 14th amendment to end the nonsense of being born in the USA gives you automatic citizenship... AND REPEAL THE 16TH AND 17TH AMENDMENTS ... THIS WOULD BE A GOOD START .... I will help Build the Wall on weekends even!!! I saw on the TV the other day about the real " Conair". Where they fly murders and rapists for FREE by private lear jet to court appearances all over the USA because they are always in some form of appeal from their convictions. Don't we have a way to have those just kind of disappear?
I'll go down and help build the d@mn wall too! And yes, we should put some of those drones to good use and shoot down the "conair" planes.Â
True, just need to find a way to get pilots and Employees out first... |
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