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Location: PICAYUNE,MS | How often do you give them and how much ? Do you see a difference in them? |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | you can get it in a tube and it depends if you want your horse hot for a race or docile for a pleasure class. It depends when you give it. Your horse will be real quiet the next day but the day after he'll be jumping out of his skin. It really depends how hard you work your horse during the week. Now if your talking for yourself once a week is enough unless your deficiant then a doctor could tell you how much.
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Location: West Texas | I am not sure why you would want to do this. If you feel like you need to, I am not hijacking this and telling you not to. I would like to share what I feel is not widely known or talked about information on this subject. B12 is produced by bacteria in a horses hindgut. If your horse needs b12 to run, you might look at the reason why. I believe, if you have a healthy horse, you would never feel the need to give b12 supplementation. Energy is a direct function of health. What Herbie has been sharing about digestive health is spot on and this is a place that I feel horses could really benefit (along with many, many others). I know people that swear by feeding b12 and hear all the time most horses are deficient. Rarely do I hear concern about why. Just a thought and suggestion. I know it seems like it's a bit of a fad that so many of us are pointing to diet and nutrition. It really does make a difference, and at least once you know you have digestive health and nutrition covered, you can look for other things, when something is off.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I just got my bottle from the vet yesterday. Mine has been seen by 3 vets and they found nothing wrong with him other than he is very unmotivated and lazy. Seriously. I tell people he has the personally and mood of Eeore off Winnie the Pooh. We tried just giving him a lot of alfalfa and stall rest the day before a show but that didn't work. I don't want to do anything unhealthy so the vet told me B12 was a safe option. I bought him in July. He used to be a rodeo horse until the woman quit riding. I can't get anything out of him speed wise. When she was running rodeos she had him on so much stuff I'm almost surprised he didn't have a heart attack but I'm also paranoid of one having a heart attack because I've been though that. She had him on 2 flakes of alfalfa Red Cell a steroid(I think) that I can't remover the name of but it started with a W and B12. I'm not doing all that. If B12 and alfalfa doesn't work I'll just take him for what he is.
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| I've used B12 on my older mare just to give her a bit of edge. I always give it orally to her the day before and day of a race. just a few cc's and it makes a huge differene. |
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| TessBelle - 2015-09-24 9:56 PM I just got my bottle from the vet yesterday. Mine has been seen by 3 vets and they found nothing wrong with him other than he is very unmotivated and lazy. Seriously. I tell people he has the personally and mood of Eeore off Winnie the Pooh. We tried just giving him a lot of alfalfa and stall rest the day before a show but that didn't work. I don't want to do anything unhealthy so the vet told me B12 was a safe option. I bought him in July. He used to be a rodeo horse until the woman quit riding. I can't get anything out of him speed wise. When she was running rodeos she had him on so much stuff I'm almost surprised he didn't have a heart attack but I'm also paranoid of one having a heart attack because I've been though that. She had him on 2 flakes of alfalfa Red Cell a steroid(I think) that I can't remover the name of but it started with a W and B12. I'm not doing all that. If B12 and alfalfa doesn't work I'll just take him for what he is.
I would stick with the Red Cell and alfalfa and skip the B12.
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| B12 will definitely hype one up, but it can be dangerous. A friend of ours gives it to his hounds before a 3 day field trial. They are crazy. I wouldn't give it to my horse if you paid me, unless there was a very specific need.
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Location: Beggs, OK | TessBelle - 2015-09-24 9:56 PM I just got my bottle from the vet yesterday. Mine has been seen by 3 vets and they found nothing wrong with him other than he is very unmotivated and lazy. Seriously. I tell people he has the personally and mood of Eeore off Winnie the Pooh. We tried just giving him a lot of alfalfa and stall rest the day before a show but that didn't work. I don't want to do anything unhealthy so the vet told me B12 was a safe option. I bought him in July. He used to be a rodeo horse until the woman quit riding. I can't get anything out of him speed wise. When she was running rodeos she had him on so much stuff I'm almost surprised he didn't have a heart attack but I'm also paranoid of one having a heart attack because I've been though that. She had him on 2 flakes of alfalfa Red Cell a steroid(I think) that I can't remover the name of but it started with a W and B12. I'm not doing all that. If B12 and alfalfa doesn't work I'll just take him for what he is.
The problem is that most vets are not well educated on the importance of nutrition on a horses total health. Since we took away all of the processed, commercial unnatural feed that we were giving our horses supplements have not been necessary. In fact the ones that are able to be used have more energy, strength, and stamina than they've ever had...without being "hot" in any way.
We will never go back to feeding concentrates. If this horse was on Red Cell, Winstrol, B12, etc...then he needs to be detoxed and start over again with a natural diet and get him feeling better. His system is just completely drained. Do a complete blood chemistry and see where he is, that will give you an idea of where he stands at this point. |
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| Just a thought, but maybe he is done running barrels. I have had a couple horses just quit running/working the barrel, but you put work cattle on them and they came ALIVE. They were just bored with the repetitiveness of barrels and loved working cattle. I am not saying this is your horse, but if she had to artificially hype him up, maybe barrels isn't his game? Again, just a thought.  |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | rachellyn80 - 2015-09-25 9:45 AM
TessBelle - 2015-09-24 9:56 PM I just got my bottle from the vet yesterday. Mine has been seen by 3 vets and they found nothing wrong with him other than he is very unmotivated and lazy. Seriously. I tell people he has the personally and mood of Eeore off Winnie the Pooh. We tried just giving him a lot of alfalfa and stall rest the day before a show but that didn't work. I don't want to do anything unhealthy so the vet told me B12 was a safe option. I bought him in July. He used to be a rodeo horse until the woman quit riding. I can't get anything out of him speed wise. When she was running rodeos she had him on so much stuff I'm almost surprised he didn't have a heart attack but I'm also paranoid of one having a heart attack because I've been though that. She had him on 2 flakes of alfalfa Red Cell a steroid(I think) that I can't remover the name of but it started with a W and B12. I'm not doing all that. If B12 and alfalfa doesn't work I'll just take him for what he is.
The problem is that most vets are not well educated on the importance of nutrition on a horses total health. Since we took away all of the processed, commercial unnatural feed that we were giving our horses supplements have not been necessary. In fact the ones that are able to be used have more energy, strength, and stamina than they've ever had...without being "hot" in any way.
We will never go back to feeding concentrates. If this horse was on Red Cell, Winstrol, B12, etc...then he needs to be detoxed and start over again with a natural diet and get him feeling better. His system is just completely drained. Do a complete blood chemistry and see where he is, that will give you an idea of where he stands at this point.
We had a blood chemistry done. Everything had normal levels other than his red blood cell Count. It was a little high but neither vet said that was abnormal. |
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Location: PICAYUNE,MS | I've never seen a horse act crazy on B12 but I guess every horse is different |
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Location: SW MO | I would be careful with it. I rode a horse for a lady that insisted her horse be on it.. I took him in the gate for a run and we practically were air born. I had another horse on 2 ccs of it and she bucked when I warmed her up but otherwise did have alittle bit of an edge in the run. I haven't used it since then and don't plan on it either. Just have to figure out what works for your horse and what doesn't. |
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Location: South Central Florida | our Vet/Chiro...she is both also into homeopathic everything as a first option. Every time she does an adjustment she gives B12...lots, like 20cc each SITE, not just once. We have never.had a.problem with it changing the horses temperment. A seperate vet from years ago had us give 5 or 10cc every time we gave lasix. I never really questioned why back then but again never saw a change in energy. |
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