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Location: California | WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-10-06 8:29 PM Ok I am confused... they obviously denied the 1st preference or draw out proposal but then I read this....
New Preferences
Proposed by Dillon McPherson -
Add “out if slack” entry option like PRCA has.
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Proposal accepted
- this will give our members greater flexibility with
working their schedules
Doesnt this mean the samething??? Now we can say as our second preference if slack draw out? How is that not like, if not first preference then draw out? Just that we can draw out if we get slack but we cant draw out if we get a 2nd performance we cant go to? Most times I've either gotten my 1st preference, which is usualy a performance, or if I dont get my 1st preference I always get thrown into slack and my 2nd preference never happens. Does this allow us to call into PROCOM and say like, 1st preference 3rd performance blah blah then say 2nd preference draw out if slack.... then we get drawn out if we get slack??? HA HA I want to make sure because if so thats pretty sweet. Helps with turn outs big time!
Yes. You can say 1st preference is Sat night and then "Out if slack" (because slack is on a Thursday at 9am and people work!)
The 1st preference or draw out option is kind of ridiculous because how often do you get your 2nd preference if it's a performance? I have never gotten a 2nd preference. It's always 1st preferance or slck. I am very excited about the "out if slack" option. | |
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| Calibarrelrcr - 2015-10-06 11:39 PM WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-10-06 8:29 PM Ok I am confused... they obviously denied the 1st preference or draw out proposal but then I read this....
New Preferences
Proposed by Dillon McPherson -
Add “out if slack” entry option like PRCA has.
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Proposal accepted
- this will give our members greater flexibility with
working their schedules
Doesnt this mean the samething??? Now we can say as our second preference if slack draw out? How is that not like, if not first preference then draw out? Just that we can draw out if we get slack but we cant draw out if we get a 2nd performance we cant go to? Most times I've either gotten my 1st preference, which is usualy a performance, or if I dont get my 1st preference I always get thrown into slack and my 2nd preference never happens. Does this allow us to call into PROCOM and say like, 1st preference 3rd performance blah blah then say 2nd preference draw out if slack.... then we get drawn out if we get slack??? HA HA I want to make sure because if so thats pretty sweet. Helps with turn outs big time!
The 1st preference or draw out option is kind of ridiculous because how often do you get your 2nd preference if it's a performance? I have never gotten a 2nd preference. It's always 1st preferance or slck. I am very excited about the "out if slack" option.
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| 3 To Go - 2015-10-06 11:31 PM It is just as easy to mess up setting a barrel when the ropes are on the inside or outside versus the middle. Even if you have a mark on the outside it's pretty easy to get it rotated up or down and have it even further off then trying to set it in the middle. When setting barrels over multiple perfs it's not possible to get them in the exact same spot every single time unless it's an indoor pen with the laser stakes. To attempt to make the situation as fair as possible timing to the 100/ths is used. If a barrel is an inch off it can effect times to the 1000/ths. Someone getting bumped out of a check because a barrel was an inch off seems more unfair? For everyone that's complaining, I am pretty sure the position for WPRA president is up for grabs this year. Since your ideas are better, why don't you run for the position and make the changes that are "better". Or run for a circuit director position and find out what goes on behind the scenes before bashing associations for what you think happens.
So you are saying that none of the members should even bother proposing changes or having an opinion...they wont be heard... unless we are on the board or are a circuit director or are the President....GOOD TO KNOW!! That's as dumb as saying that no one should even gripe about what the President of the United States does because they are not willing to run for President or work for him.
Secondly...I wonder why so many...TONS...of other asssociations haven't taken the WPRA's "expertise" and continued to set stakes in the middle of the barrels for the BIG three and four day barrel races that most often add WAY more money than the average rodeo to the barrels??? I mean, if it is the MOST ACCURATE WAY and WPRA is such the ELITE association that it has had "research" and "studies" done...you would think that others would have followed suit. AND BESIDES...what do the big names like MARTHA WRIGHT know? They are only the top trainers, authors, equipment designers and experienced people in the sport! So you cant set the barrel in the same exact spot (especially in the center)...heck sometimes the judges cant even set the barrel on the CORRECT STAKE, LOL, and there is no way to place the timers in the same exact spot either....so are you saying that you CAN keep ground conditions the same from perf to perf? What about weather conditions? What about dragging every five? The fact is RODEO IS RODEO IS RODEO and there will ALWAYS be SEVERAL different variables from performance to performance that will affect times.........the same with every big barrel race out there and people are still entering because that is just how it goes...that doesnt mean that you dont use the technology that has developed over the years...that doesnt mean you dont try to improve.
FYI I very clearly stated in one of my above posts that if explanations like yours were given they might make more sense to those who read the rule proposals and denials...who are members...and have been members for over a decade...we are not saying what "we think happened"....we are going by what you report in the WPRA report of the RULE PROPOSALS on WPRA WEBSITE and if the WPRA doesnt want people to make assumptions on why the denials then they should provide more accurate answers to why something was denied just like YOU did....I can actually see both sides of this when I hear YOUR EXPLANATION....it makes A LOT of sense. BUT YOUR EXPLANATION WAS NOT POSTED....and the explanation is pretty vague. Variables such as what..ground, weather, draw, drag position...what???? THEY SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. PERIOD. >>>>Proposal denied - With so many variables that can affect a recorded time, moving to 1/1000th is not considered fair.
Edited by MOTIVATED 2015-10-07 9:19 AM
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| On a more pleaant note I think the "out if slack" option is great.... and by far one of the most helpful "accepted" proposals for the Cowgirls that there was. YAY for that. GOOD CALL WPRA ;)
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | All this barrel setting and how many digits are really not that big of a deal. Now not letting more of the members have a chance to run at the big indoor rodeos is a big deal. You don't see too many of the "Big Dogs" fighting for that, Myself, those small little details with barrels are insignificant. Now keeping a huge percentage of the membership from even getting a chance to run at the good rodeos, that is big deal. | |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2015-10-07 10:27 AM All this barrel setting and how many digits are really not that big of a deal. Now not letting more of the members have a chance to run at the big indoor rodeos is a big deal. You don't see too many of the "Big Dogs" fighting for that, Myself, those small little details with barrels are insignificant. Now keeping a huge percentage of the membership from even getting a chance to run at the good rodeos, that is big deal.
I agree with you 150% I think the majority of the members are just trying to get heard about ANYTHING at this point. Trying to change the big stuff is like  ya know...if you wont listen to us on the little things then you will probably never listen to us on the big things. But hey, we did get the "slack thing" this year LOL...and who knows, maybe its just because someone got sick of answering turnout calls after callbacks and decided it would be easier administratively.....either way I would say it was win win for both. Now...how do we make an adjustment for the limited rodeos sound like an administrative benefit??? If we can figure that out THEN things might change. | |
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