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Bewitching Racer
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-08 1:16 PM
Subject: Arthritis in the knee - options?


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I have a 16 year old horse that is developing arthritis in his knee - had a vet do a steroid shot once that made it look great for about 4 days. It is noticeably swollen but he still runs with all his heart. I am wondering what everyone has found that works better for the knees? Does Pentosan, Legend or other joint shots help? Previcox? Any suggestions or experience would be greatly appreciated.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-10-08 2:02 PM
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Steroids depending on what type, shouldn't be given in high motion joints such as the knee, as it will deteriorate more of the cartilage.

Injections into the joint

Intramuscular injections such as adequan, glucosamine, pentosan, and/or polyglycan is something also to consider to prolong the timespan between injecting into the joint
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Bewitching Racer
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-08 2:05 PM
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And I apologize for my terminology maybe it was an injection of the knee, it did bring the swelling down to almost normal which was amazing but it only lasted for like 4 days. Seems awfully expensive with very short term results to do any good.....
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-10-08 3:12 PM
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Bewitching Racer - 2015-10-08 2:05 PM

And I apologize for my terminology maybe it was an injection of the knee, it did bring the swelling down to almost normal which was amazing but it only lasted for like 4 days. Seems awfully expensive with very short term results to do any good.....

you can put steroids in high motion joints you just don't want to do it often for the reasons Cheryl mentioned.

how did y'all come to the conclusion has has arthritis? did you take X-rays of it?
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2015-10-08 3:16 PM
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Furazone DMSO sweats helped our mare with a bad knee. It's hard to keep in place but I found using combo, wrap with saran wrap and then a polo, cover with BOT knee wrap and a quick wrap it stays pretty good.
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Bewitching Racer
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-08 3:20 PM
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No I guess the vet just assumed it, has other "aging" aches and pains but knee has blown up in the last year or so. Still has full movement on it but I always feel guilty when I run him. I didn't know if because it's in his knee if it was a hopeless battle?

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-10-08 3:47 PM
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Bewitching Racer - 2015-10-08 3:20 PM

No I guess the vet just assumed it, has other "aging" aches and pains but knee has blown up in the last year or so. Still has full movement on it but I always feel guilty when I run him. I didn't know if because it's in his knee if it was a hopeless battle?

i would X-ray it to see if theres a reason for swelling.
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just4fun
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Posted 2015-10-08 5:23 PM
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I'm still running my 21 y/o with arthritic knees.
He is injected yearly (sometimes more). Usually steroid and HA.
The supplements that work for him (and I've tried a lot!) are polyglycan (monthly, or more) and glucasamine (weekly).
I also use BOT knee boots when trailering and the rare occasion I stall overnight.
His knees are not swollen. He does have bumps and knobs, but they are hard.
If he was younger, I would be looking into IRAP, but vet says he's no longer a candidate.


 

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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-10-08 8:29 PM
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  I noticed my horses knee was larger than the other and I had it x-rayed and there wasn't a chip, but there was a fragment that hadn't chipped yet. I tried previcox initially but that didn't do anything whatsoever. I ended up injecting the knee which brought him back from being three legged lame and I started him on pentosan which will hopefully help treat the joint and relieve inflammation from here on out.  Good luck!  
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Bewitching Racer
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-10-09 1:16 PM
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Thanks everyone for the replies --- when the vet did inject his knee she said there wasn't much fluid in there so she had a hard time injecting. Which I am assuming means he has a lot of arthritis in there and is therefore lacking fluid in the knee joint. Due to the lack of fluid making it difficult to inject I am afraid I am reaching the end of his barrel racing career.... If I did X-rays and there is a chip or something would I have any other options beside injecting?
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Posted 2015-10-09 2:03 PM
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Bewitching Racer - 2015-10-09 1:16 PM

Thanks everyone for the replies --- when the vet did inject his knee she said there wasn't much fluid in there so she had a hard time injecting. Which I am assuming means he has a lot of arthritis in there and is therefore lacking fluid in the knee joint. Due to the lack of fluid making it difficult to inject I am afraid I am reaching the end of his barrel racing career.... If I did X-rays and there is a chip or something would I have any other options beside injecting?

surgery, remove the chip.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-10-09 2:21 PM
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I would get a bag of CUROST "PURE" formula. My good horse has arthritis EVERYWHERE with multiple injections over the years. Half scoop twice a day of the pure and he is no longer on any NSAIDS ( Previously on previcox daily) and running and turning harder than ever.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2015-10-10 8:04 AM
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I would Xray it to see what your dealing with then start on the injections or meds . Id not throw away money on things until you know exactly what your dealing with .. sounds like his joint is dry and rubbing causing inflammation and swelling but Id rule out a chip and go from there.
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-10-11 7:53 AM
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I second the Cur Ost. But I would probably get a bag of the EQ total also. It targets inflammation and pain. Plus it gets the hind gut to functioning. Which is a lot of causes of inflammation. Then give the Pure as a pre race additive 3 days out. This works for me. My horse had a splint on the right front leg. It's now almost gone. I'm not having to use Previcox, Bute or Banamine.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-10-11 8:36 AM
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readytorodeo - 2015-10-11 8:53 AM I second the Cur Ost. But I would probably get a bag of the EQ total also. It targets inflammation and pain. Plus it gets the hind gut to functioning. Which is a lot of causes of inflammation. Then give the Pure as a pre race additive 3 days out. This works for me. My horse had a splint on the right front leg. It's now almost gone. I'm not having to use Previcox, Bute or Banamine.
I think if she is going to continue to compete and for longterm Id find out why instead of just masking a issue.. then if just maintenance is needed great !! INjections would be the way id go for relief.....but there may be a reason why if just became large an issues .. seems supplements are always miracle drugs.. and always recommended and thats super . but masking pain to compete heavily isnt the right approach IMHO.figure out why then ......

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-10-11 9:32 AM
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 I'm not saying don't find out what's wrong.  I'm not big on injections unless that's the only way to go.  I thought the original poster had already been to the vet. Had it injected and it didn't last long.  Maybe I misread the post?  I know what Cur Ost has done for my horse.  

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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2015-10-11 8:04 PM
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readytorodeo - 2015-10-11 10:32 AM
 I'm not saying don't find out what's wrong.  I'm not big on injections unless that's the only way to go.  I thought the original poster had already been to the vet. Had it injected and it didn't last long.  Maybe I misread the post?  I know what Cur Ost has done for my horse.  
I think she did have injections but didnt last.. so possibly theres a bigger issue.... i think if xrays didnt show a issue then supplements would help maybe I agree..  didnt mean to sound  rude or in disagreement.

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-10-11 8:31 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2015-10-11 8:04 PM

readytorodeo - 2015-10-11 10:32 AM
 I'm not saying don't find out what's wrong.  I'm not big on injections unless that's the only way to go.  I thought the original poster had already been to the vet. Had it injected and it didn't last long.  Maybe I misread the post?  I know what Cur Ost has done for my horse.  
I think she did have injections but didnt last.. so possibly theres a bigger issue.... i think if xrays didnt show a issue then supplements would help maybe I agree..  didnt mean to sound  rude or in disagreement.

You didn't. I thought that maybe I misunderstood. I have had great results with CurOst .
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