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Location: Broxton, Ga | canchaserdelux - 2015-10-30 3:10 AM
Each horse is their own unique individual just as we are.
I have ridden and trained many horses, and you just listen to what they tell, they each develop their own style.
We can try to shape them or try to mold them into what we think or our riding style but in my experience they each find their own way to fit their abilities for the turn, or what is comfortable for them.
Good Luck.
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| I suggest that you ride the way that works best for you. I am sure you will be fine.
I have always tried to emulate the people who were beating the other 600, 800, or 1000 runners at these bigger barrel races since many of them live in this area and I have to run against them. A small barrel race around here is at least 250. |
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Location: WI | I'm trying to figure out what works best, that's the idea of this post. I've not been riding and hauling much the past five years and I feel like I'm basically starting over |
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| following... I am interested. What other turning styles besides tear drop or 4x4 or rollback are there? and who is good to watch for a rollback style |
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| This is what Ed Wright told us at a clinic many years ago; he thought that the rollback was probably fractionally faster BUT it was much harder to leave all 3 barrels up, so he and Martha rode and taught their way which seems to me was a rounder turn. He felt that if you had a rounder more forward turn, you could keep that hip from hitting the barrel as you left it and also avoid shoulder dropping. Mind you, this was in the early 90's, so he may have changed by now. He had no problem helping those of us who had rollback horses, and he did improve those horses, too.
He felt that the rollback horse left no room for error and the rounder turning style was more forgiving, in a nutshell.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | alp341 - 2015-11-01 11:31 AM
following... I am interested. What other turning styles besides tear drop or 4x4 or rollback are there? and who is good to watch for a rollback style
My opinion on the roll back style is it is the horse.......and their conformation.......one of my mares is a roll back style I will never get her to be any other she is as stiff as a board......I consider the roll backs to be more like reining horses....which is what she reminds me......and there is usually no forgiveness with roll back style.....
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Location: Broxton, Ga | GLP - 2015-11-01 11:44 AM
This is what Ed Wright told us at a clinic many years ago; he thought that the rollback was probably fractionally faster BUT it was much harder to leave all 3 barrels up, so he and Martha rode and taught their way which seems to me was a rounder turn. He felt that if you had a rounder more forward turn, you could keep that hip from hitting the barrel as you left it and also avoid shoulder dropping. Mind you, this was in the early 90's, so he may have changed by now. He had no problem helping those of us who had rollback horses, and he did improve those horses, too.
He felt that the rollback horse left no room for error and the rounder turning style was more forgiving, in a nutshell.
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Location: Texas | CJE - 2015-11-01 9:35 PM
canchaserdelux - 2015-10-30 3:10 AM
Each horse is their own unique individual just as we are.
I have ridden and trained many horses, and you just listen to what they tell, they each develop their own style.
We can try to shape them or try to mold them into what we think or our riding style but in my experience they each find their own way to fit their abilities for the turn, or what is comfortable for them.
Good Luck.
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I completely agree with this, if you ride enough different horses you will learn she is dead on about the different styles, and if you try to make then change it , it may hider them running barrels instead of help them
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Location: SW MO | kickincans - 2015-11-02 1:06 PM
CJE - 2015-11-01 9:35 PM
canchaserdelux - 2015-10-30 3:10 AM
Each horse is their own unique individual just as we are.
I have ridden and trained many horses, and you just listen to what they tell, they each develop their own style.
We can try to shape them or try to mold them into what we think or our riding style but in my experience they each find their own way to fit their abilities for the turn, or what is comfortable for them.
Good Luck.
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I completely agree with this, if you ride enough different horses you will learn she is dead on about the different styles, and if you try to make then change it , it may hider them running barrels instead of help them
It really can make a horse slow down if they are not comfortable in the turn. I use different tuning for different horses. I have a stiffer mare that doesn't work so much off her hind end that really didn't benefit by tuning her on the tear drop pattern. I switched her to the techniques Michelle Mcleod uses in her trainingbarrelhorses.com videos and my mare has really quickened her turns. I think that it is a lot of trial and error. I have all my runs videoed so I can see how my horse is moving around the turn and play to its strengths. Hope you find what works!  |
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