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Location: MD | Have you used it? What kind of horse have you used it on? |
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| I have one and use it for roping. Used it on my one horse when he was younger as he wanted to play bucking bronco. Easy to keep his head up. Not for the hard handed person though. If not used properly you can really cut ones tongue up. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Yes, this bit can get a horse sensitive. The shanks will rotate the mouth piece which is very narrow, maybe a 1/4", the whole mouth piece is wide, maybe 3". The more pressure you put on the bars on a narrow edge the more cutting into the bars. This action sure can get them sore mouthed. |
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Location: Dearing, GA | In the past I've used this on a loosey-goosey mare who had so much bend that she could literally fold in half around the barrel. It was a very inefficient way to turn the barrels, and this helped stiffen her up and get her booty underneath her.
Edited by Just Let Me Run 2015-11-12 12:47 PM
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Location: Beggs, OK | If I were going to use a flat bar bit like that I would go with a Workman. The original short shanked Workman has a lot of feel that you wouldn't expect from the way that it looks. |
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| Actually I have both and like both as you can sure get one to lighten up. Worked really good for what I wanted them for. I used one for roping and one for work around the barrels. |
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Location: USA | I haven't used the Rutledge Roper, but Sharon Camarillo has one that's almost the same thing and I liked it for super bendy horse. |
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 I Don't Brag
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| We have put them on several horses we have acquired through the years, that came to us with cut (healed) tongues.
I also had an athletic, FAST, mare with a very light mouth. She would shake her head every time you took a hold (and a light hold at that) of her. This mare was a blown up futurity prospect off the track that I never really did get to rate...she would run around a barrel as fast or faster than she got to it' IF the ground would hold her. Trainer put a Rutledge on her and suggested it to me. I was a bit horrified because this mare was very light and super sensitive. She hated a broken bit unless it was a chain and she liked a bar-type bit. The swivel on the Rutledge slowed my hands down enough so I was an irritant to her.
Never had to get in to a horse's face with one so I have not experienced them as being severe. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I own the sharon camarillo version of the rutledge roper her 'polo' bit. It has swivel shanks rather than solid. I've used it on a horse that pitched forward onto his shoulder thru his turns causing him to lose his hip and go by. I wouldnt consider it a harsh bit persay. It is heavy and will teach a horse to pack a bit. One of my favorite bits however not one that I use often. I've only used it on two horses ever. One being overly bendy and they other being the one I mentioned above. |
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| The flat bar mouthpiece was originally designed for a cart horse with a cut tongue. This type of bit is more effective if a stop is put on the shanks so that can't swivel all the way. The weight basically intimidates the horse. A lot of horses figure out pretty quick they can get away from the pressure of this bit by putting their head up in the air. I personally like the Flat Bar that Don Wasson makes. It's just better balanced than a Rutledge and it has a stop on it. Plus you can get the shank in a long or short version. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | SKM - 2015-11-14 11:10 AM
The flat bar mouthpiece was originally designed for a cart horse with a cut tongue. This type of bit is more effective if a stop is put on the shanks so that can't swivel all the way. The weight basically intimidates the horse. A lot of horses figure out pretty quick they can get away from the pressure of this bit by putting their head up in the air. I personally like the Flat Bar that Don Wasson makes. It's just better balanced than a Rutledge and it has a stop on it. Plus you can get the shank in a long or short version.
I have a Wasson and haven't ever seen another one. |
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