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| jschipper - 2015-10-30 12:05 PM
I completely disagree with the generalization that ALL TBs are built poorly for barrels. And that ALL TBs are slow to pick up speed. My Thoroughbred is neither of those. This type of generalization is how TBs get such a poor rap and so many are tossed out to pasture or worse after their racing careers.
Yes, there are TBs that are not built for barrels and who take longer to pick up speed. But guess what??? THERE ARE QHs who are the SAME way!!!!
This is my 5 year old Thoroughbred mare. She is still what I consider a colt on the pattern, but is starting to consistently hit the 1D at bigger jackpots and has a few local jackpot wins under her belt. She was the ONLY Thoroughbred entered in a recently futurity and she placed 17th out of 105 (with a not so great run for her) in one go round and 30th in the average... she had a bad weekend over all to be honest, as colts sometimes do. Don't walk away from a horse just because they have jockey club papers. I turned this mare down THREE times before I finally just decided to buy her and the only reason was because of her papers!
ETA She is a daughter of Red and out of a daughter of Snowbound (both sprinters and sprinter producers). This mare won all her money sprinting and even the shortest TB races were a stretch for her. She would have done well on the QH track lol.
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Location: Alberta, Canada | FlyingJT - 2015-10-30 10:22 AM
jschipper - 2015-10-30 12:05 PM I completely disagree with the generalization that ALL TBs are built poorly for barrels. And that ALL TBs are slow to pick up speed. My Thoroughbred is neither of those. This type of generalization is how TBs get such a poor rap and so many are tossed out to pasture or worse after their racing careers. Yes, there are TBs that are not built for barrels and who take longer to pick up speed. But guess what??? THERE ARE QHs who are the SAME way!!!! This is my 5 year old Thoroughbred mare. She is still what I consider a colt on the pattern, but is starting to consistently hit the 1D at bigger jackpots and has a few local jackpot wins under her belt. She was the ONLY Thoroughbred entered in a recently futurity and she placed 17th out of 105 (with a not so great run for her) in one go round and 30th in the average... she had a bad weekend over all to be honest, as colts sometimes do. Don't walk away from a horse just because they have jockey club papers. I turned this mare down THREE times before I finally just decided to buy her and the only reason was because of her papers! ETA She is a daughter of Red and out of a daughter of Snowbound (both sprinters and sprinter producers). This mare won all her money sprinting and even the shortest TB races were a stretch for her. She would have done well on the QH track lol.
This is why yours is neither...... But you can't argue that most are not bred for distance
I'm not arguing that most aren't bred to go distances. What i'm saying is that to generalize and say that a thoroughbred will most definitely not be any good for barrel racing is unfair. More barrel racers need to have an open mind. My mare isn't the only TB who's bred and built to go short distances.
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Location: Alberta, Canada | veintiocho - 2015-10-30 10:40 AM
jschipper - 2015-10-30 12:05 PM
I completely disagree with the generalization that ALL TBs are built poorly for barrels. And that ALL TBs are slow to pick up speed. My Thoroughbred is neither of those. This type of generalization is how TBs get such a poor rap and so many are tossed out to pasture or worse after their racing careers.
Yes, there are TBs that are not built for barrels and who take longer to pick up speed. But guess what??? THERE ARE QHs who are the SAME way!!!!
This is my 5 year old Thoroughbred mare. She is still what I consider a colt on the pattern, but is starting to consistently hit the 1D at bigger jackpots and has a few local jackpot wins under her belt. She was the ONLY Thoroughbred entered in a recently futurity and she placed 17th out of 105 (with a not so great run for her) in one go round and 30th in the average... she had a bad weekend over all to be honest, as colts sometimes do. Don't walk away from a horse just because they have jockey club papers. I turned this mare down THREE times before I finally just decided to buy her and the only reason was because of her papers!
ETA She is a daughter of Red and out of a daughter of Snowbound (both sprinters and sprinter producers). This mare won all her money sprinting and even the shortest TB races were a stretch for her. She would have done well on the QH track lol.
I really like her build!!
Thank you :) I'm biased but she's pre special :) While I am enjoying the heck out of her, I also look forward to the day that I get to breed her and then run her babies. With Red's last foal crop being yearlings in 2015, I sure am thankful to have two mares out of him! |
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| I've pretty much decided based on this thread not to buy him for the simple fact if I want to sell him later I'm afraid even if he's a good horse nobody will buy him because of his breed. |
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Location: Midwest | Lucky86 - 2015-11-02 6:48 AM I've pretty much decided based on this thread not to buy him for the simple fact if I want to sell him later I'm afraid even if he's a good horse nobody will buy him because of his breed.
Depends how good he is. If he is a truly proven 1D horse, nobody will give a rat's behind what breed he is. Grade horses will sell for big dollars if they are winning the 1D- a TB will too.
However, if he is a 3/4/5 D horse your are right... less people will want him and you would sell for less than a comparable AQHA registered horse.
Personally, I would not persue a TB. There are so many well bred QH's out there going for great prices right now. I am limited though on numbers as I board horses, so that effects my pov.
I do think the right TB has the ability to do well, and I like the breed myself. They make WONDERFUL english horses and can be very versatile mounts, too. They are beautiful. Buuuut, you will hit some predjudice in the barrel arena with one, and in general quarter horses are usually a better bet and investment. (JMHO) |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-11-02 7:26 AM
Lucky86 - 2015-11-02 6:48 AM I've pretty much decided based on this thread not to buy him for the simple fact if I want to sell him later I'm afraid even if he's a good horse nobody will buy him because of his breed.
Depends how good he is. If he is a truly proven 1D horse, nobody will give a rat's behind what breed he is. Grade horses will sell for big dollars if they are winning the 1D- a TB will too.
However, if he is a 3/4/5 D horse your are right... less people will want him and you would sell for less than a comparable AQHA registered horse.
Personally, I would not persue a TB. There are so many well bred QH's out there going for great prices right now. I am limited though on numbers as I board horses, so that effects my pov.
I do think the right TB has the ability to do well, and I like the breed myself. They make WONDERFUL english horses and can be very versatile mounts, too. They are beautiful. Buuuut, you will hit some predjudice in the barrel arena with one, and in general quarter horses are usually a better bet and investment. (JMHO)
All I've owned is quarter horses. I am selling my 1D horse, would like to buy a nice project and pay things off with that money. Mostly pay things off. So the next horse may be a stepping stone horse. I found a nice appendix filly I like. She will be easier to sell if she doesn't turn out. |
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Location: Midwest | I think you're correct that selling a qh is easier. Appendix is not a big deal IMHO TBs are harder to move in my area. |
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| I love mine! I cant wait to start hauling him. He took to barrels fairly quickly..I focus on slow work tho as I did not want him to loose his brain. I will try to post a pic!!
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| Love mine....I have one that is "typical" thoroughbred and one that looks like QH....both ran in the 3D at big race in Texarkana...love them both!!! Will try to post pics |
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| I love my mare. She's so level headed and just wants to please. I haven't started hauling her, mainly cause I haven't ran barrels in years, but do think she's going to make a good all around horse. The more I work with her, the more I think she could be a competitive barrel horse. I just need to get up and start hauling. |
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| RunfastNTurn - 2015-11-04 8:16 AM
I love mine! I cant wait to start hauling him. He took to barrels fairly quickly..I focus on slow work tho as I did not want him to loose his brain. I will try to post a pic!!
Yours looks a lot like mine. Same color and built the same. How is he bred? |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | I just got a really nice OTTB gelding by Cactus Ridge out of an Ogygian mare about 2 months ago, easiest horse to ride in the world and NATURALLY taking to barrels. He will lope around like a pleasure horse and stop on a dime. And hes blessed with a head full of sense! If you like how the horse is built and his attitude, go for it! Here is my guy Oxnard
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | This is the guy I picked up. He's six. Ran as a 3 and 4 year old and then just sat. He's about 15.3 and on the stockier side. Trying to fatten him up tho as he came to me on the lean side....I've been hauling him with my mare and working in the warm up arena with all the hustle and bustle. So far, he's handling it pretty well.
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| pepsi97 - 2015-11-21 3:14 PM RunfastNTurn - 2015-11-04 8:16 AM I love mine! I cant wait to start hauling him. He took to barrels fairly quickly..I focus on slow work tho as I did not want him to loose his brain. I will try to post a pic!! Yours looks a lot like mine. Same color and built the same. How is he bred?
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Location: Midwest | I've been admiring him Sarah! So pretty :)
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