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  Location: Greencastle PA | Hello, I have a gelding that just dose not have good feet, and I have tried just about everything that I can think of. So I was thinking of switching his feed. Any help??? Thanks | |
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I just read the headlines
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| I don't know if your horse has the same problems as my horse had but this is what worked and worked FAST.
I had his teeth checked to make sure he could chew his food for good digestion.
I changed over to Omni cubes- consisting of alfalfa, oats and flax
Cur-Ost Stomach for possible ulcers/digestive upset
Cur-Ost Adapt and Calm for stress
Then in a month of using Stomach and Adapt I changed to Cur-Ost Total and discontinued the Stomach and Adapt. I now only use the Adapt when I know he will have stress.
He is also on a round bale of grass hay.
He had very thin soles, flares on the back and crack on the front right hoof that went up to the coronary band. Shoer told me I may always have to have front shoes due to the crack going all the way up. 2 shoeings later he is now barefoot. He has good sole coming in and that big "spring of rib" I thought was his conformation is just about gone.
I suggest you go to secondvet.com and ask Dr. Schell about what could be going on with your horse and read the posts about feet and how inflammation may be playing a part in the condition of your horse. Dr. Schell is very knowledgeable and very willing to help. | |
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| I like everything that GLP said. I have one on this exact regimen. However, its expensive and many people can't or don't want to switch over.
Before I started using the CO products, I've had fantastic luck with rice bran. You're going to think it's crazy, but if you want coats, feet, manes, tails, etc, just feed 1-2 lbs rice bran a day for a few months and see what you've got. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | GLP - 2015-11-24 9:17 AM I don't know if your horse has the same problems as my horse had but this is what worked and worked FAST. I had his teeth checked to make sure he could chew his food for good digestion. I changed over to Omni cubes- consisting of alfalfa, oats and flax Cur-Ost Stomach for possible ulcers/digestive upset Cur-Ost Adapt and Calm for stress Then in a month of using Stomach and Adapt I changed to Cur-Ost Total and discontinued the Stomach and Adapt. I now only use the Adapt when I know he will have stress. He is also on a round bale of grass hay. He had very thin soles, flares on the back and crack on the front right hoof that went up to the coronary band. Shoer told me I may always have to have front shoes due to the crack going all the way up. 2 shoeings later he is now barefoot. He has good sole coming in and that big "spring of rib" I thought was his conformation is just about gone. I suggest you go to secondvet.com and ask Dr. Schell about what could be going on with your horse and read the posts about feet and how inflammation may be playing a part in the condition of your horse. Dr. Schell is very knowledgeable and very willing to help.
Very good advice here ^^^^ | |
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     Location: God's country | I feed my weanlings Ultium Growth by Purina and at their last trimming my farrier remarked that he didn't know what I was feeding them but they were growing a ton of hoof. We don't have the best feed choices in my area but that is the best you can get around here. I've since changed my riding horses to the Competition line but they haven't been on it long enough to really see a difference yet. I've also fed boxed gelatin in the past for hoof growth. Good Luck! | |
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      Location: NE Texas | GLP - 2015-11-24 9:17 AM I don't know if your horse has the same problems as my horse had but this is what worked and worked FAST. I had his teeth checked to make sure he could chew his food for good digestion. I changed over to Omni cubes- consisting of alfalfa, oats and flax Cur-Ost Stomach for possible ulcers/digestive upset Cur-Ost Adapt and Calm for stress Then in a month of using Stomach and Adapt I changed to Cur-Ost Total and discontinued the Stomach and Adapt. I now only use the Adapt when I know he will have stress. He is also on a round bale of grass hay. He had very thin soles, flares on the back and crack on the front right hoof that went up to the coronary band. Shoer told me I may always have to have front shoes due to the crack going all the way up. 2 shoeings later he is now barefoot. He has good sole coming in and that big "spring of rib" I thought was his conformation is just about gone. I suggest you go to secondvet.com and ask Dr. Schell about what could be going on with your horse and read the posts about feet and how inflammation may be playing a part in the condition of your horse. Dr. Schell is very knowledgeable and very willing to help.
Good feet are a result of the stomach working properly and good nutrient assimilation. No matter what you're feeding, if the hind gut isn't doing it's job and the nutrients aren't being absorbed, it won't matter. The first step in getting a good foot is getting the hind gut working, which is what GLP, myself, and others have found in our horses. With the hind gut functioning as it should, so many chronic issues that we have faced with our horses for years are now non issues. From COPD, to poor hoof quality, to laminitis, to chronic ulcers, to joint pain and inflammation, to over excitability....it all ties back into the hind gut. Even poor eyesight, epm, and even cancers are tied into this concept.
I stumbled across the Cur-OST product back in March when battling a life threatening respiratory condition with my horse. After months of treatments by several different vets, thousands of dollars spent, and exceeding all medical options available I began researching and found Nouvelle Research and Dr. Schell. I consulted with him for probably 3 weeks and he finally said "give me 2 weeks", and as a last resort I did just that. I changed my picky eating, chronically ulcery, suffocating horse over to whole oats and alfalfa and took him off of every single supplement, medication, ulcer treatment, etc he was on and gave this concept 2 weeks to work. Boy was I surprised! Literally a month after the last of 3 vets offered to write a letter to my insurance company to euthanise this horse, I was back to riding him. The issues he had even before he became ill that I thought were "quirks" were no longer there. He went from a bipolar, ill mannered, always very sensitive to even brush horse to one who would run up in the pasture ready to be curried and go to work. The transformation is truly amazing.
Do I have strong feet on this horse? Yes, absolutely. I do still have front shoes on him at this point, but those will be removed the next time. It takes 6 months to grow a new foot, and i'm at the 8 month stage now. His foot has completely grown out and there are no more fever rings or abnormalities. This winter I am going to let him go barefoot and ideally I will keep him that way in the spring.
The foot is a direct reflection of your horse's health. The term "no foot, no horse" is absolutely true, but one must look deeper to realize that it's more complicated that just the foot. We must be sure that are our horse is capable of growing a good foot through ensuring the hind gut is healthy and working properly, the immune system is functioning as it should, and the hrose and hoof will both proper in ways you didn't realize were possible. | |
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  Location: The Great Northwest | I have seen The Perfect Horse improve several hooves. It has a guarantee. The site you need to check it out is www.E3liveforhorses.com/store.asp | |
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| This is not a feed but I swear by my BOT bell boots for increasing the amount of foot they grow in a cycle. I think they are $44 dollars? It is worth a try IMO. One set of bells is less than a months worth of feed. My farrier is very old school and doesn't believe in any of the "therapies" however this past shoeing cycle he commented how much foot my club foot mare had grown. She is impossible to get a decent of foot. I smirked when I told him the reason.  | |
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