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When did it change? I think I missed it....

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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-11-28 8:38 PM
Subject: When did it change? I think I missed it....



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... I remember when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s... Cops were heros... Somewhere along the line... they became the enemy... I grew up watching TV shows like '77 Sunset Strip' Chips, Dragnet, Adam-12, Kojak, Hawaii Five O.... All the darn way back to Gunsmoke... Something changed..... I need help pinpointing it....
(I'm working on a story about Pearl Harbor right now, but I need material for my next one.)
May I have your thoughts please?
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heidiinaz
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-11-28 8:40 PM
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 It's called Obama
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-11-28 8:44 PM
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heidiinaz - 2015-11-28 8:40 PM

Β It's called Obama

I......saw the degradation long before Obama showed up... We can't pin this one on him...
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BarrelRacing4Christ
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2015-11-28 8:46 PM
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Cops still aren't the enemy... Society in general is. I believe it all boils down to racism, which is at an all time high. Today's generation doesn't know how to do their research on things, they're stuck in their smart phones more worried about who has liked their selfie than what's actually going on in the world. Parents don't raise their children anymore, they just pacify them with technology. The outcome is a bunch of spoiled, entitled, lazy bigots who don't know how to get anything accomplished without playing a race card, being violent, or shaming others.

ETA: People no longer know how to take responsibility for their own actions, they blame others. So instead of it being, "Oh, thank you for doing your job and possibly saving someone's life by pulling me over while I was doing 50mph in a 35mph zone," it's "How dare you pull me over, police officer?! You must be racist! You're not doing your job, you're just targeting me!"

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heidiinaz
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-11-28 8:50 PM
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Ok how about the liberal media. They vilify police and every story involving a officer is all over the media. But the great stories involving officers and all the good they do is no where to be seen. Society as a whole has a huge sense of entitlement which crosses over to our police who are under the microscope for everything now.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-11-28 9:05 PM
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I think this began around the mid90's. It began with a lack of respect for others. Possibly when the children of crackheads grew up and became parents. As I said, these people have no respect for anyone, teachers, parents neighbors, no one. The thing is no one cares if people!e don't respect anyone. These cop haters have a rap sheet a mile long because they do not respect others or their property. A cop approaches them to arrest them once again, they already have little respect with an attitude so to them they are the victims. Did that make sense?
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-11-28 9:13 PM
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heidiinaz - 2015-11-28 8:50 PM

Ok how about the liberal media. They vilify police and every story involving a officer is all over the media. But the great stories involving officers and all the good they do is no where to be seen. Society as a whole has a huge sense of entitlement which crosses over to our police who are under the microscope for everything now.

If you have Facebook, I recommend to you a page called Police The Police...
For the most part, they call to attention... cops getting out of line... For the most part, I recognize propaganda... But... I'm not a fool....
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heidiinaz
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-11-28 10:09 PM
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komet. - 2015-11-28 7:13 PM
heidiinaz - 2015-11-28 8:50 PM Ok how about the liberal media. They vilify police and every story involving a officer is all over the media. But the great stories involving officers and all the good they do is no where to be seen. Society as a whole has a huge sense of entitlement which crosses over to our police who are under the microscope for everything now.
If you have Facebook, I recommend to you a page called Police The Police... For the most part, they call to attention... cops getting out of line... For the most part, I recognize propaganda... But... I'm not a fool....

 You are asking for people's thoughts. These are my thoughts I'm not here to start a argument. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-11-28 11:23 PM
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My husband saw it changing in the 90's. He retired in 1996 and that day couldn't come fast enough.
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-11-29 5:02 AM
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I read an opt ed piece about this that made some sense.  Law enforcement officers used to be called peace officers because that is what they did, keep the peace.  Over the last two decades we have had a large number of men and women come back from war and become cops.  They are trained to react, to protect themselves, and to attack.  So some instinctively react that way when under pressure from and insulant, worthless, piece of garbage who is pushing their buttons.

Just a thought, not necessarily mine but it does make some sense. 


Edited by Vickie 2015-11-29 5:04 AM
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2015-11-29 6:30 AM
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It's because we have so many laws on the books that do not belong there. And cops who have no clue that it is their duty to NOT enforce those laws vs the "I don't make the laws, I just enforce them" bs.
Aside from that, I'm pretty sure the majority of people, in law enforcment, too, have no idea what our rights really are and if a citizen does know and assert them, they are then labeled a domestic terrorist!
I yearn for the simple days when fear didn't rule our world and leo's weren't part of the 'brotherhood' gang, when citizens didn't start crap then expect a cop to take a bullet for them, when parents didn't introduce drugs to their children, when our lawmakers considered the Constitution before they tried to legislate morality and behaviour...
It's a lot of things...mainly, it's divide and conquer.


 
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-11-29 7:58 AM
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I think it was when we as a society began to lose respect for authority .. and the new administration decided its ok... and gave them a free pass to do as they please and be rewarded..my opinion.. 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-11-29 8:06 AM
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Komet I think understand what you are asking. It seems in the past cops were calm and clear headed in tense situations, but now the few times I have seen them in action in person, they come in yelling and screaming at you. Their actions actually escalate the situation instead of de-escalating the situation. They act aggressive from the get go. Are they lowering their standards somewhat because the more qualified people are not applying because the lack of respect and low pay? Is their training at fault? I tend think that is part of the problem. Someone mentioned general lack of respect toward the police and I am sure that is a contribution to the problem. The idea that many of the miltary are now part of the police force is also interesting. Maybe we should go back to calling them peace officers to help with perception and hence change how they are treated and then how the police treat suspects. Maybe they need to include classes on how to calm situations down. I am sure they already do, but they should emphasize it much more. Just some early morning thoughts. The police have a hard job and for the most part, I think they do the best they can.
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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-11-29 8:40 AM
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I don't think it is any one thing but rather a bunch of things all bundled together.  Remember when we used to look up to our teachers also.
I think society has lost respect for all people in general and became an "you owe me" attitude.
I used to sub teach in school and can't believe how different it is from when I was in school.  The kids know that you can't do anything and they take full advantage of it.  The teahers want to be there cool friends instead of a roll model in charge.  
I'm not liking change!!!!! 
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