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| uno-dos-tres! - 2015-12-26 9:41 AM
uno-dos-tres! - 2015-12-26 9:34 AM SKM - 2015-12-23 8:29 PM Whenever you have a sire that throws like FG does, you will have soundness issues. It's the nature of the beast when you have a particular sire that throws hard running, hard turning, more try than is safe and a winning desire no matter how much pain they may be in. I've seen more than a few own FG get trip at a barrel, fall on their face and STILL place in the top 3 at rodeos. I have a mare and I truely believe this was the case for her. Fastest gal in the early futurity season years ago. But she broke down because she would work her guts out for me.
Does Woodbridge have a parrot mouth??
I know at one time this defect was going to be printed on
a horses papers by AQHA but apparently it got lost by the
hidden committee they keep locked up in a closet ... lol
I wouldn't try any fancy dental work .. the jaw bone is set
when they are born and this is what is out of whack ...
let baby teeth guide the mature teeth ...
How many have noticed that adult humans that had their
teeth in braces and teeth removed on the uppers ... are
now smiling with an under bite where the lower teeth and
jaw stick out in front of the uppers ... makes for a goofy
looking photo when several are in the picture ... lol
What would you do to this youngster??
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Location: North Dakota | I had a daughter of Frenchmans Guy and I could not keep her sound!! She may be ok for a few weeks then out for a month!!! This is the only experience I have with his offspring! She was temperamental and had to be babied or she pouted! I have found that quarter horses today are not as sound as they used to be!! A good horse should not need thousands of dollars in injections and supplements to perform!! The best horses I have now are good ole ranch horses with cow horse breeding! We may be breeding faster horses today but we are not breeding horses that last!! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | No, not going to do anything other than every 6 mo. Work. Filly is on pasture and looks really good out there. She's next on the breaking list. I rode many on the track 30 years ago and trained one for barrels never had any issues while I was top side. The barrel horses tongue would stick out quite often. As long as the pastures stay good I figure she's alright.
Woodbridge, I don't believe he's parrot mouthed. The mare and he just had a mismatch in jaws. My mare has a small FG head.
Angelica, I so agree, the horses are not holding up like they did thirty years ago. I'm not sure if it's us expecting more sooner or the genes. I've held them and not broke 'em till they were three and still had issues. I would rather break them as twos and walk and trot them to good bone modeling. |
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| Most soundness issues are caused by out of shape horses and how they were raised or trained and currently fed.
Today if our pasture is not level we hire a dozer to flatten it out, horses stand in pens and stalls and trained in arena's .. for less than an hour per day. ... or less days. and we go rock hunting so horse won't step on it ..
It is like having a couch poatato for a son or daughter ... that go thru the drive thru or call the pizza deliver guy.... and yes .. most are fat and that is what we try to do with our horses ... always fattening them up ... lol
Having some rough terrain raising horses would be a gift from God!! To me the perfect place would be at least a mile square with a mountain of rocks in the middle of it where mares and babies etc would have to travel over the mountain to pasture and back over the mountain of rocks to get a drink of water. Soundness of bones and feet come from hard use when growing up ... and on the other hand ... training should include as many 4-6 hour pasture rides as possible to get the growing bones and feet as hard as nails and feed natural feeds like whole oats, corn and alfalfa and forget the supplements and other crap we buy to feed horses and not for ourselves ..
and I remind you again .. there is more truth to these words if you want a lifetime sound horse ...........
HE CAN'T RUN FAST ENOUGH TO HURT HIMSELF!!
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Location: Bandera, TX | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-12-27 7:49 PM Most soundness issues are caused by out of shape horses and how they were raised or trained and currently fed. Today if our pasture is not level we hire a dozer to flatten it out, horses stand in pens and stalls and trained in arena's .. for less than an hour per day. ... or less days. and we go rock hunting so horse won't step on it .. It is like having a couch poatato for a son or daughter ... that go thru the drive thru or call the pizza deliver guy.... and yes .. most are fat and that is what we try to do with our horses ... always fattening them up ... lol Having some rough terrain raising horses would be a gift from God!! To me the perfect place would be at least a mile square with a mountain of rocks in the middle of it where mares and babies etc would have to travel over the mountain to pasture and back over the mountain of rocks to get a drink of water. Soundness of bones and feet come from hard use when growing up ... and on the other hand ... training should include as many 4-6 hour pasture rides as possible to get the growing bones and feet as hard as nails and feed natural feeds like whole oats, corn and alfalfa and forget the supplements and other crap we buy to feed horses and not for ourselves .. and I remind you again .. there is more truth to these words if you want a lifetime sound horse ........... HE CAN'T RUN FAST ENOUGH TO HURT HIMSELF!! lol
I love you thinking. The pasture my babies are in is two and a half miles long. I can assure you there's plenty of rock. I wish I would have taken my stud colt up to the ranch but I didn't want him near any of the other horses. He doesn't look near as good as the babies ranch raised. He's farm raised.
Mine don't get near the riding I used to give to colts. My paying job requires me every other day thus their riding is every other day-I hate that but it is what it is. I hope to have all my colts checking pasture after I've pen ridden them for twenty days. I just have to be careful as our hog and cat problem can present real risk. No couch potatoes here if I can help it.
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Location: where my horse takes me | I own a full sister to Guys Piece of the Pie. She is a 10yo palomino. Very sound, big fee and big bone. Recently had a lameness locator exam done on her at Dr. Honnas in TX and she was very sound according to him. She is a big mare and one of those "trip and fall on their face and still clock" type horses. She's for sale too!! :)
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| Love the response, very interesting to read..and yes my mare is crossed with race bred on her dam's side. She's extremely lazy to ride in general I really hope when we get with it she turns up the speed and I see "heart"  |
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| angelica - 2015-12-27 6:15 PM
I had a daughter of Frenchmans Guy and I could not keep her sound!! She may be ok for a few weeks then out for a month!!! This is the only experience I have with his offspring! She was temperamental and had to be babied or she pouted! I have found that quarter horses today are not as sound as they used to be!! A good horse should not need thousands of dollars in injections and supplements to perform!! The best horses I have now are good ole ranch horses with cow horse breeding! We may be breeding faster horses today but we are not breeding horses that last!!
What was the dam on this horse?
just curious.
OP- The couple I have been around are awesome, no soundness issues. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. |
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Location: Kansas | angelica - 2015-12-27 6:15 PM I had a daughter of Frenchmans Guy and I could not keep her sound!! She may be ok for a few weeks then out for a month!!! This is the only experience I have with his offspring! She was temperamental and had to be babied or she pouted! I have found that quarter horses today are not as sound as they used to be!! A good horse should not need thousands of dollars in injections and supplements to perform!! The best horses I have now are good ole ranch horses with cow horse breeding! We may be breeding faster horses today but we are not breeding horses that last!!
A good horse that is being hauled ALOT, and ran ALOT, will require some type of maintenance.......just sayin |
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| WHOA!!!!! I just looked, 1810 people have looked at this thread but only 28 comments?! LOL interesting. Thanks for everyone's input I love this board for info from ones that have had experience :) |
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