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| Would like to get my feet wet in this area and was just wondering how the market was right now to breed and sell. Not looking at going into it and produce a bunch of foals every year just one or two. Is it better to sell as a weanling or hold on to them for a year? I have two Jet of Honor/ Top Moon cross mares and a Firewater Flit/ Top moon cross mare. What would be some good crosses that people would be interested in? |
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| I would have to see the actual pedigrees of your mares... |
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| The market sucks and selling as weanling is best. Less time, money and opportunity for them to get hurt.... Post pedigrees and pics of your mares. You almost have to have OWN daughters and breed to the handful of TOP stallions pray nothing goes wrong and someone is looking for that exact cross |
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| Tn_Barrelracer - 2016-01-03 9:02 PM The market sucks and selling as weanling is best. Less time, money and opportunity for them to get hurt.... Post pedigrees and pics of your mares. You almost have to have OWN daughters and breed to the handful of TOP stallions pray nothing goes wrong and someone is looking for that exact cross
I agree with this. But, I will also say I have a hard time selling weanlings. A lot of the futurity riders don't want to feed a weanling for a couple years. Then they seem to go when they are turning two which is the time I then want to keep them because I can finally start riding them. LOL..So, now I am a hoarder of babies!! My husband tells me I have a disorder of some sort. :) |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | Check the pedigrees of winning horses and if the bottom side is VERY similar to your mare then try and breed to the same stallion. |
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Location: Kentucky | I think the market has bounced back quite a bit since the last few years, but I'm optimistic and have great luck selling my babies. I do prefer to sell them as weanlings, as less chance of killing themselves on your property before you can send them away.
I do agree that having a daughter of a well known barrel racing stallion is more helpful than a granddaughter, great-daughter, etc. I think sometimes you have to take off that "emotional" hat as an owner and put on your "business" hat. Would you want a carbon copy of the mare? Would you buy the baby? Are you willing to hold to on the baby if it doesn't sell? Do you have an excellent repro vet in the area? Are you prepared to lose money?
There's a lot of variables in breeding, but I enjoy it. That said, I'm taking a year off next year. It's exhausting. mentally and financially. It's a lot of work. Then people B*tch and complain that the babies cost to much. Do the math! It's pricey! Sometimes it's cheaper to buy the baby than it is to breed the mare. |
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Good Ole Boys just Fine with Me
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Location: SE Missouri | I wouldn't have bred my mare if she wasn't a race winner/track money earner... I listed her for sale after confirming in foal to a future fortune, proven producing stallion (on BHW) b/c I really didn't want to raise babies after all. I chose him b/c I really like another filly that I raised by him.
I guess what I'm rambling on about is breed from something that is very marketable BUT you would keep for yourself if they don't sell for what you want. I'll probably list my mare prior to foaling but then I don't know what my plan B is on when to market the foal yet. Probably weanling. I just want to sell so I wont try to keep it.. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I have an own daughter of Jet of Honor and pulled a equistat report on her. The best Jet of Honor crosses listed were Firewater Flit, Frenchmans Guy, OTMR . |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Murphy - 2016-01-04 10:25 AM I think the market has bounced back quite a bit since the last few years, but I'm optimistic and have great luck selling my babies. I do prefer to sell them as weanlings, as less chance of killing themselves on your property before you can send them away.
I do agree that having a daughter of a well known barrel racing stallion is more helpful than a granddaughter, great-daughter, etc. I think sometimes you have to take off that "emotional" hat as an owner and put on your "business" hat. Would you want a carbon copy of the mare? Would you buy the baby? Are you willing to hold to on the baby if it doesn't sell? Do you have an excellent repro vet in the area? Are you prepared to lose money?
There's a lot of variables in breeding, but I enjoy it. That said, I'm taking a year off next year. It's exhausting. mentally and financially. It's a lot of work. Then people B*tch and complain that the babies cost to much. Do the math! It's pricey! Sometimes it's cheaper to buy the baby than it is to breed the mare.
True story... I used to think prospects were overpriced, but at that time I had no idea of the costs associated with breeding. Once I learned more, I found myself realizing how few people actually make a profit on prospects of any age.
It's a tough game and you have to love it, from what I have observed. I don't know if I'd be able to do it... maybe in a few years. |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | We drop around 10-15 babies a year and never breed anything you are not willing to keep, by that I mean---is it something you would like. When selling babies---color helps, CUTE SELLS. When people are looking at two comparably bred foals---they will 90% of the time take the flash. It is human nature. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | Mighty Broke - 2016-01-04 10:54 AM We drop around 10-15 babies a year and never breed anything you are not willing to keep, by that I mean---is it something you would like. When selling babies---color helps, CUTE SELLS. When people are looking at two comparably bred foals---they will 90% of the time take the flash. It is human nature.
very true however I bought a chestnut and then it shed out to be chocolate palomino, I know I know the breeder lied and suckered me into a bate and switch deal LOL |
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Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | kwanatha - 2016-01-04 3:30 PM Mighty Broke - 2016-01-04 10:54 AM We drop around 10-15 babies a year and never breed anything you are not willing to keep, by that I mean---is it something you would like. When selling babies---color helps, CUTE SELLS. When people are looking at two comparably bred foals---they will 90% of the time take the flash. It is human nature. very true however I bought a chestnut and then it shed out to be chocolate palomino, I know I know the breeder lied and suckered me into a bate and switch deal LOL
LOL--that worked out well for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Here goes the pics. I was thinking of a firewater flit or frenchman's guy stallion. Really leaning towards frenchman's guy (because I would keep it) but think Firewater flit would sell better in my area (oklahoma). the two bays are full sisters (bugged with honor-stallion) and the sorrel is a half sister by the mother (alive n firen- stallion)
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| Just bumping back up for the ones that requested pics and pedigrees. Thanks for all the advice from everyone. |
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