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Location: Georgia | How do you keep your bleeders legged up? My 7 year old mare is currently controlled on only 1.5cc of Lasix and I plan to make our first run in flair strips this weekend to see how she responds. During the week I long trot and lope her, roughly 3-5 days and on Friday-Sunday we're either at a race or I work cattle on her. I won't to make sure to keep her lungs strong but I feel like there's more I could do instead of long trotting and loping for 45 minutes to an hour.
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Location: USA | I do lots and lots of long trotting and loping and am starting to sprint short distances at first and want to gradually build up. The theory is to condition the lungs for the sprint, not just for trotting and loping long distances. |
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Location: Peach State | I ride my bleeder 3-5 times a week pretty lightly. Some breezing a few times a week. Lots of walking up hills to help lung capacity. And he gets bleeder stop daily which has helped a lot during the off season. |
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Location: Georgia | Thanks for the responses. I try to trot and lope for 30-45 mins 3-5 times a week and when I go to the arena on Fridays, I usually tune on the pattern, if she needs it, and then I'll breeze her through the pattern once or twice, work the fence, and work cattle if they have any up, etc. Then I run her once or twice over the weekend. Tomorrow will be our first run with flair strips so hopefully that will help her with recovery. |
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Location: Georgia | Well I just used flair strips for the first time and let me say, my mare ran the hardest she's ever ran. I believe I'm sold. If only they were cheaper! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Klittle3 - 2016-02-13 10:27 PM Well I just used flair strips for the first time and let me say, my mare ran the hardest she's ever ran. I believe I'm sold. If only they were cheaper!
PM me and I'll tell you how I make my own. Flairs make a difference. Simple mechanics, I've done test with my horses on the tredmill where I could see. I'm sold too! |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | uno-dos-tres! - 2016-02-14 8:37 AM Klittle3 - 2016-02-13 10:27 PM Well I just used flair strips for the first time and let me say, my mare ran the hardest she's ever ran. I believe I'm sold. If only they were cheaper! PM me and I'll tell you how I make my own. Flairs make a difference. Simple mechanics, I've done test with my horses on the tredmill where I could see. I'm sold too!
I agree, I won't run without Flairs. Completely sold, she has been firing harder than ever |
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| We've been using an EquiResp machine on my bleeder for the past couple of months while we've been getting him in shape. Started out with the treatments every other day for a week or two (can't remember exactly) and have been using it one a week since. We ran him at his first show since starting treatments back in December this last weekend. Gave him a treatment both 2 days prior to running him, and the day of the show. Wow, what a difference! He ran much harder, and you I felt like I could feel him breathing deeper, with a pep in his step like "wow, I CAN breath!" I love it! |
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Location: South MS | Klittle3 - 2016-02-11 8:36 PM How do you keep your bleeders legged up? My 7 year old mare is currently controlled on only 1.5cc of Lasix and I plan to make our first run in flair strips this weekend to see how she responds. During the week I long trot and lope her, roughly 3-5 days and on Friday-Sunday we're either at a race or I work cattle on her. I won't to make sure to keep her lungs strong but I feel like there's more I could do instead of long trotting and loping for 45 minutes to an hour. I would love to hear how others maintain their bleeders!
You have to do some sprints. think of it like this - someone can run cross countries miles and miles and be in shape - you put them in the 100 yard dash against someone who trains with short sprints they arent going to be as competitive even if they are in great condition.
With my bleeder I will do 4 corner barrels, I will trot 3 of the corners and sprint one and repeat, then I might lope and sprint one, I keep him moving and add enough sprints that he is breathing good but not straining to cause a bleed.
I also have hills at mine house - I trot the pasture and then fast lope up the hills - use some air power when you are going to ride him hard - it helps
I feed yannan paiyo daily from Big Ds and I can do more with mine at home with this to keep him in shape. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | You might want to add some helichrysm prior to your run. It helps or in some prevents the bleeding.
Remember keep your horses in a dust free area during warm up.
Dust is horrible it brings in microrganisms that can wreck havoc.
After they run use your machine to help them clear the biproducts of a hard run. I would let them recover to their resting respiratory rate. Use EO's that can assist the horse with recovery such as Nebulin via a 3-5 micron nebulizer. When I have a horse with mucos I use Acetylcystine 1:1 via the nebulizer, the treatment only takes 3-4 minutes they begin to cough that junk out immediatly. Where I'm from its been dusty for all my young horses since they were born and I'm having to adjust my care for them due to this drought.
I 've used a nebulizer since I was in 8th grade and I'm now going into my fifth generation. I've never used one as often as I've had to over the last couple of years. Last week I rode with a friend in our county arena it was dusty just walking side by side. I took him out back away from the others to lope him. The next day he was suffering from a runny nose. He's just hypersensitive and I'm going to have to say no to visiting with friends when my horses health can be compromised.
You need to preload your horse with his splenic contration of RBC's prior to your runs. If you ever watch the good trainers and jockeys at the track with a bleeder you will see how they do that in the warm up. It's helped several of my bleeders esp. those that ride wound up. I just sprint the long sides of the warm up pen about 10 min. prior to my run. I wish I could tell you how it helps but I'm thinking it gives the horse a small bolus of blood verses a large bolus and the lungs are pre loaded and ready for the full effort that is about to occur. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-02-21 10:07 AM You might want to add some helichrysm prior to your run. It helps or in some prevents the bleeding.
Remember keep your horses in a dust free area during warm up.
Dust is horrible it brings in microrganisms that can wreck havoc.
After they run use your machine to help them clear the biproducts of a hard run. I would let them recover to their resting respiratory rate. Use EO's that can assist the horse with recovery such as Nebulin via a 3-5 micron nebulizer. When I have a horse with mucos I use Acetylcystine 1:1 via the nebulizer, the treatment only takes 3-4 minutes they begin to cough that junk out immediatly. Where I'm from its been dusty for all my young horses since they were born and I'm having to adjust my care for them due to this drought.
I 've used a nebulizer since I was in 8th grade and I'm now going into my fifth generation. I've never used one as often as I've had to over the last couple of years. Last week I rode with a friend in our county arena it was dusty just walking side by side. I took him out back away from the others to lope him. The next day he was suffering from a runny nose. He's just hypersensitive and I'm going to have to say no to visiting with friends when my horses health can be compromised.
You need to preload your horse with his splenic contration of RBC's prior to your runs. If you ever watch the good trainers and jockeys at the track with a bleeder you will see how they do that in the warm up. It's helped several of my bleeders esp. those that ride wound up. I just sprint the long sides of the warm up pen about 10 min. prior to my run. I wish I could tell you how it helps but I'm thinking it gives the horse a small bolus of blood verses a large bolus and the lungs are pre loaded and ready for the full effort that is about to occur.
How much and how do you give helichrysm?? |
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| I have found the best thing for my bleeder is ride only a few times a week. A good warm up and IF I do any short fast work, its at maximum 5 seconds just enough for take off and I walk a ton after. If your horse is a bleeder and you are doing sprints or breezing at home, he is still going to bleed. Any exertion full speed on bleeders is going to make them bleed, it's just like making a run. |
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