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Location: Oklahoma City OK | It's one thing to sell or buy a horse without papers as such, even knowing it was registered - just that the papers aren't going to accompany the horse. There are lots of valid reasons for that and perfectly fine if the seller merely offers the horse without papers. End of story. However, to represent and sell a REGISTERED horse as grade, insinuating the horse was never registered, is a whole different issue, and frankly, dishonest. Selling a registered horse without disclosure of that status or knowledge usually means something is being hidden...perhaps the true age of the horse, the true parentage, etc, etc.
The other problem I have with a registered horse being sold without its papers, is that those papers are often used to represent a different horse as registered to an unsuspecting buyer. I used to work at a sale barn that had drawers full of registration papers and they would often go through the drawer to see what horses they had in the upcoming sale that could come close to matching those papers, thereby representing a different horse as being so registered.
Edited by smmthbr 2016-02-22 1:20 PM
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The Advice Guru
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| Red Raider - 2016-02-22 1:04 PM
Silly Filly - 2016-02-22 9:46 AM So I have a horse that I got from a friend who "thought" the horse was registered, but couldn't find the papers. (divorced and moved to a camper) I happened upon a post on FB from the breeder, so I messaged him about it. He said the horse was never registered, but that he would help me to register him. Can that even be done when the horse is 6 years old? I only want papers so that I can keep track of his age and breeding, no plans to ever sell him.
Anyway, my point is that you should not make judgments when you don't know full circumstances.
You can register a six year old but it's going to cost $500-545 depending on your membership status plus other fees. I have a few older horses that are not registered (were gifted to me) that for me, it's not worth that amount to have papers (I'm not selling mine either) just to know birthdate and breeding but everybody is different.
Not necessarily, both parents have to have DNA on file. There are still a few horses that are ineligible as the mare was never dna'd.
I also heard aqha is no longer accepting DNA results from the jockey club, know of one horse not registered as a result of this | |
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Location: That part of Texas | cheryl makofka - 2016-02-22 2:28 PM Red Raider - 2016-02-22 1:04 PM Silly Filly - 2016-02-22 9:46 AM So I have a horse that I got from a friend who "thought" the horse was registered, but couldn't find the papers. (divorced and moved to a camper) I happened upon a post on FB from the breeder, so I messaged him about it. He said the horse was never registered, but that he would help me to register him. Can that even be done when the horse is 6 years old? I only want papers so that I can keep track of his age and breeding, no plans to ever sell him.
Anyway, my point is that you should not make judgments when you don't know full circumstances.
You can register a six year old but it's going to cost $500-545 depending on your membership status plus other fees. I have a few older horses that are not registered (were gifted to me) that for me, it's not worth that amount to have papers (I'm not selling mine either) just to know birthdate and breeding but everybody is different. I also heard aqha is no longer accepting DNA results from the jockey club, know of one horse not registered as a result of this
I would suspect that if the breeder said they would help get the horse registered, this isn't going to be a problem. | |
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Location: Canada | Honestly when people say grade horse at grade price I think this only pertains to young horses. Once a horse has proven itself and has the record to show it I think it only affects price slightly. The difference would be a well bred mare with an excellent record this is where papers would influence the price greatly.
A gelding once proven I don't think affects the price greatly. The benefit of having papers on a gelding is to verify age.
In unproven up and coming horses a papered horse will outsell a grade horse any day but once proven I think the odds even out in the gelding department.
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Location: Florida.. | she said a foal... so no you cant without paying something.. | |
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