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I need nutritional information, not a sales pitch.
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | Yes my mother was one. You need to talk to your doctor about finding one. A good one will draw up meal guides and goals for your body's counts. They won't have a magic pill for you.
Eta by body count I mean: iron levels, calcium levels, vitamin deficiencies so on and so forth.
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| CouchJockey - 2016-03-13 2:37 PM Yes my mother was one. You need to talk to your doctor about finding one. A good one will draw up meal guides and goals for your body's counts. They won't have a magic pill for you. Eta by body count I mean: iron levels, calcium levels, vitamin deficiencies so on and so forth.
Horse nutritionist - not human. Sorry I didn't specify in words. |
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | Oh my goodness I am such a dingbat. Sorry. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would call the closet Equine Universtity and they might be able to help you. I think you will find most are going to have products that they endorse. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Call one of the vet schools. I took an equine nutrition course when I briefly thought of applying to vet school. That was one tough class! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I think BB KMC went to school for horse nutrition? |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | Check out Juliet Getty's site, she is wonderful and although she does sell some products she does not "sell" to you when discussing issues. She may direct you on a type of product needed to correct your issue. I used to work for a supplement company and listened to all her webinars and read her book. It's helped me a lot in learning the best way to feed my horse. If you have questions message me. |
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| check out FeedXL, it's not a person although I think you can call them, but it breaks down the nutritional value that you are feeding. Vitamins, minerals, fat, protein, everything. It's pretty cool! |
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Location: West Texas | The problem with horse nutrition and nutritionist is that there is many different opinions on what is right and what isn't. Just as with human nutrition, people disagree. To compound this, nutrition is heavily influenced by big business and feed companies. Universities are funded by feed companies and most nutritionist first jobs are with major feed companies. Later many return to the University to teach the cycle of what they think they know. So in a way, all nutritionist are selling something. That is not necessarily a bad thing, since there are varying ideas and product offerings within the equine nutrition world. I think it is best for people to educate themselves on what they think best fits their personal feed opinions and preferences. That is the only way to cut through the sales pitch, because everybody seems to have one. A marketing slant, if you will. I do sell a feed, but my opinions formed are through research, trial and error, and common sense. My feeding ideas are generally not supported by much of the current popular groupthink found in feed literature today. But, it is important to remember there is no real or clear cut right and wrong. Good luck. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Call me and I will help. I promise not to sell you anything if you just need some nutritional understanding. 530-934-9300
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| Tdove - 2016-03-14 10:12 AM The problem with horse nutrition and nutritionist is that there is many different opinions on what is right and what isn't. Just as with human nutrition, people disagree. To compound this, nutrition is heavily influenced by big business and feed companies. Universities are funded by feed companies and most nutritionist first jobs are with major feed companies. Later many return to the University to teach the cycle of what they think they know. So in a way, all nutritionist are selling something. That is not necessarily a bad thing, since there are varying ideas and product offerings within the equine nutrition world. I think it is best for people to educate themselves on what they think best fits their personal feed opinions and preferences. That is the only way to cut through the sales pitch, because everybody seems to have one. A marketing slant, if you will. I do sell a feed, but my opinions formed are through research, trial and error, and common sense. My feeding ideas are generally not supported by much of the current popular groupthink found in feed literature today. But, it is important to remember there is no real or clear cut right and wrong. Good luck.
My question is very straight forward, though there might be differing opinions on the answer.
Is plain old COB better than any processed feed? Specifically - COB is higher in natural NSC than many bagged products; however, there are -0- fillers or processing or added anything in this COB.
I am happy with my horses how they are on the feed they are on. The only change I have considered in recent years is going to the all natural COB and bumping up the fat and adding a vitamin. Just as 'white death' and honey are both pure sugar to a body, and yet one has clear health benefits and one does not, I want to know if the higher NSC is still worth it to get away from the sugars, junk ingredients (wheat middlings), and high heat processing of common bagged feeds. |
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Location: West Texas | Most nutritionist would tell you no it isn't and that processed feed is better.
My way of thinking is similar to the train of thought you are on. There are fans of COB out there, but I am not one of them. I am not a fan of corn for horses at all. I feel like high quality whole oats would fit your need and thought process better, than any COB mixture. Oats are the lowest in NSC, highest in fiber, highest in fat, and most digestible of the three. Fed in less than 3 lbs per feeding, oats in my opinion are one of the best concentrates available today. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Yep. My blood analysis guy is my go to. He tells me what's lacking and builds them a program of supplements that will help and I go find what I need myself. And he keeps it simple -- for example, Flax seed, celery seed and dandelion root have become staples -- natural, quick and easy to find at any health food store. And cheap! |
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| It you want to learn about horse nutrition rather than have someone tell you what to feed buy a copy of the HORSE NUTRITION HANDBOOK. I bought one off Amazon. As you read, go through and highlight the important things so you can use it for future reference. I took a nutrition course years ago and a lot has changed. |
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