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EmtRoper
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2016-03-30 12:20 PM
Subject: Training help


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So my colt is loping a wonderful pattern but the second we speed up at all. It completely falls apart, how long do you give a horse to do this before calling it quits ? He has been loping the pattern for a solid 90 days but we cannot seem to move past this point
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tracies
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2016-03-30 12:28 PM
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I would do something else for a while. Roping? Sorting? get him on cattle. His confidence will increase, he will learn to run and rate naturally (off pattern), and when you bring him back to the pattern, you will have more to work with.   
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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2016-03-30 12:56 PM
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You have to get them super reactive before you speed it up. Message me on my phone I'll send you some one on one help. 940-632-8989
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mollibtexan
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2016-03-30 12:56 PM
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How old is the colt
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-03-30 1:38 PM
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Depends on the horse but honestly it could take years. Doesn't mean you should give up on them. The horse I have now was started on the pattern at 3 and was high loping when he was 5, would not do a good pattern if I asked him too much speed. Had two years off the pattern and now he's ready to go full throttle...usually lol.
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clampitt
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2016-03-30 2:44 PM
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 90 days is just a good starting time. Their still trying to figure things out. Speed disrupts everything. Add a little along. They will make mistakes as well. Frustration on your part just adds to it. We rope,work cattle in pen and on the flag. Most always what I see here. When speed is added. The rider tends to pull a little more. Confort zone. Most always the horse is fine with a little more speed. They can run. Its the rider that tends to get anxious some Pulls a little more as speed goes up. They feel like they have to be helping the horse all the time. Quit pulling more. Go back inforce the rate. Set the horse back of barrel 15ft or so. Let them settle get still right there. Walk the turns. Take the pressure of the turn away. Keep it simple relaxed they will do fine. Send the horse at a good lope to the barrel. Add the speed. Set,rate,settle get quiet here. Walk the turn. The turn itself can cause both of you to get tense. Add pressure. Like a light switch. Turn it on. Turn it off
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-03-30 2:45 PM
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I have a gelding that does the same thing. I've pretty much given up
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Fancy Lass
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-03-30 7:20 PM
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Interested too .. I have a 6 yr old like this .. But I refuse to give up on her !
Speed kills so I add it then she starts getting too anxious , so I back the pressure off .. I will be watching this thread!
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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-03-30 7:54 PM
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I've had the best luck in adding speed in pieces. Ask and let work the first, then ease up to the 2nd and 3rd on one run. On an other, I'll cruise to the 1st, ask to the 2nd, and then ease up to the 3rd. I think a horse and rider can both get bothered by asking for speed all the time during the pattern. If you roll to the 1st and make a mistake - then haul butt to the 2nd - you are probably going to bobble the 2nd also. I think that adding speed in pieces, lets both catch up and teaches a horse to let you handle them in a pattern. My two cents....probably all it's worth.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2016-03-31 5:39 PM
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He's still figuring it out. I would straight line him for a while. Find a long straight line you can let him roll for a distance slow down and speed up slow down and speed in the left lead and on the way back in the right lead, doing the same. Keep it real simple. Stay off the barrels until he is really responding well with this.
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