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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | should i do anything? They are out running in pasture, seem happy, good gut sound? Need I worry? |
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Location: Montana | I'm not a vet, but if everything looks okay, normal gut sounds and normal bowel movements, I'd say you're okay. But I'd keep an eye on them for the next 24 hours or so to make sure. |
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Location: West Texas | If they are all if that, they will have the runs pretty bad most likely. |
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| Keep watching but it sounds like you are probably in the clear...
I'm not sure though if you should be monitoring hoof temp for founder? |
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| You aren't in the clear. Colic won't be the issue. The issue is founder. You need to keep checking for a digital pulse up to 24 hours. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Ultium has Wheat mids, and soybean hulls as the first two ingredients, therefore the majority of the formulation is made up of these. Both are fairly high in fiber and the combination is pretty low in starch. While I would consider these two ingredients as mostly low cost fillers, I don't think they will cause fermentation in the hind gut enough to cause more than significant inefficiency. You will most likely see loose stool as stated above. However, 50 pounds is a lot. There is always the chance that one of the horses ate a lot move of that than the other. I would watch them closely though, as every horse is a little different.
Edited by winwillows 2016-05-19 12:41 PM
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Location: Florida.. | its also very high in fat.. you arent in the clear yet.. matter of fact id have vet notified in case needed..50 lbs is alot |
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I've been told to soak their feet in ice a few times a day (for a couple days after the intake) if they eat large amounts of grain. This will hopefully prevent founder. |
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Location: Iowa | I'd call your vet for peace of mind. That way you can't say "I should have". |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The only thing I would be worried about is founder, I'll keep a close eye on them, like someone else said one could have eaten more then the other, a 50 lb bag sure is alot. I would call my vet and tell him/she what happen and see what they would suggest to do, if anything. |
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| Runninbay - 2016-05-19 7:14 PM
I've been told to soak their feet in ice a few times a day (for a couple days after the intake) if they eat large amounts of grain. This will hopefully prevent founder.
Soaking in ice water might help the fever but it will not stop the coffin from rotating. You need to stand them in knee deep mud to relieve the pressure so the coffin won't rotate. |
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Location: Georgia | SKM - 2016-05-19 9:55 PM Runninbay - 2016-05-19 7:14 PM
I've been told to soak their feet in ice a few times a day (for a couple days after the intake) if they eat large amounts of grain. This will hopefully prevent founder. Soaking in ice water might help the fever but it will not stop the coffin from rotating. You need to stand them in knee deep mud to relieve the pressure so the coffin won't rotate.
Ah well that's good to know! OP, hope your horses end up being alright from all this. If only they knew the things that aren't good for them, our lives would be much less stressful. If it helps, my gelding escaped once and ate a whole bin of my neighbors feed. He was completely fine. Prayers! |
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Location: Willows, CA | Do NOT try to stand your horses in knee deep mud. Rotation typically does not happen right away from feed related laminitis. It often takes as long as thirty days and is from the destruction of that connective tissue. Taking weight off of the feet will not repair that tissue once it is destroyed. The damage that can be caused by deep mud to ligaments while doing something that has nothing to do with preventing a rotation is not something you want to face. |
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| winwillows - 2016-05-20 9:06 AM
Do NOT try to stand your horses in knee deep mud. Rotation typically does not happen right away from feed related laminitis. It often takes as long as thirty days and is from the destruction of that connective tissue. Taking weight off of the feet will not repair that tissue once it is destroyed. The damage that can be caused by deep mud to ligaments while doing something that has nothing to do with preventing a rotation is not something you want to face.
I guess it depends on the soil type. Clay type could stress tendons I suppose. One of the best lameness vets in the country told me the mud thing when we had a horse get in the feed room. He developed a strong digital pulse within 12 hours. We stood him in mud for 2 days and treated with Ace. He never rotated and no farrier could ever tell he foundered. The vet did say wet sand works very well. |
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Location: Willows, CA | SKM - 2016-05-20 11:13 AM
winwillows - 2016-05-20 9:06 AM
Do NOT try to stand your horses in knee deep mud. Rotation typically does not happen right away from feed related laminitis. It often takes as long as thirty days and is from the destruction of that connective tissue. Taking weight off of the feet will not repair that tissue once it is destroyed. The damage that can be caused by deep mud to ligaments while doing something that has nothing to do with preventing a rotation is not something you want to face.
I guess it depends on the soil type. Clay type could stress tendons I suppose. One of the best lameness vets in the country told me the mud thing when we had a horse get in the feed room. He developed a strong digital pulse within 12 hours. We stood him in mud for 2 days and treated with Ace. He never rotated and no farrier could ever tell he foundered. The vet did say wet sand works very well.
Wow!! I would be very cautious with that recommendation. How would you ever get a horse out of wet sand up to it's knees? I don't think 1 Vet out of 1000 would recommend standing a horse in any type of wet soil up to it's knees. I have seen horses stood in mud to cover the foot, but to it's knees would send me running to a different Vet. I would venture to say that you were very lucky with that horse. Just my opinion, but I would be cautious recommending that to other horse owners. |
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