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Wild1
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2016-05-18 9:32 PM
Subject: Hot Nail treatment?


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So my farrier did this the other day to one of my horses :( I've had this same farrier 8 years no issues. Mistakes happen. But I have a sore horse now which really stinks. Going on day 3, not lame at the walk, but at the trot he's peg legged. I've just started soaking hot water/epsom salt for maybe 20 min a day. Do I call a vet out? Or wait this out? I'm besides myself here on what to do.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-19 5:30 AM
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Usually, once they pull the nail out, they are good. I would suspect an abscess.
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horsiace1025
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2016-05-19 7:32 AM
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If he didnt pull the nail, then that would be the first thing to do. But, assuming he already did that then he should have put something back in the whole to prevent infection. But, you can use iodine in the hole (squirt it in there with a needle, carefully) for a couple days and it should help, otherwise, then yes, he may be developing an abscess.
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-05-19 7:36 AM
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If he's never done this before then why did he do it now?
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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-05-19 7:44 AM
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SG gave me an awesome advice when I had to use a standin farrier last year. Soak it in OxyClean. I also had the farrier come the following day and pull the shoe and then kept it clean with Iodine following that.  
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-19 8:26 AM
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cecollins0811 - 2016-05-19 7:36 AM If he's never done this before then why did he do it now?

 It happens to everyone occasionally. The guy I'm using has been shoeing 4-5 horses for me for 3 years, and he quicked one yesterday. The nail had a little bend in it and he didn't realize it until he drove it.  He pulled it right out, but she's a little sore on it.  Think running a splinter under your fingernail--it hurts for a few days. 
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Spin Doctor
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2016-05-19 8:48 AM
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Most will be fine in a few days. Might look and see if one clinch is higher than the rest....if you have a pair of hoof testers (or the large C shaped vise grips or channel lock pliers will work), apply pressure to sole in several areas and each nail. Most will let you know where the ouch is.......

It happens to everyone eventually. I finally did one a week ago or so...was a very thin walled, small footed horse that I have struggled with the last few years.

I am not a fan of pulling the shoe and reseting it as than you have more nail holes. Or just pulling the shoe either. If you can't id the exact nail, a little bute or so the next few days, and he will be fine...

Good luck.
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-05-19 10:56 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-19 8:26 AM
cecollins0811 - 2016-05-19 7:36 AM If he's never done this before then why did he do it now?
 It happens to everyone occasionally. The guy I'm using has been shoeing 4-5 horses for me for 3 years, and he quicked one yesterday. The nail had a little bend in it and he didn't realize it until he drove it.  He pulled it right out, but she's a little sore on it.  Think running a splinter under your fingernail--it hurts for a few days. 

If a farrier says he has never quicked a horse or had a hot nail he is either lying or just started last week!! 
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-20 6:02 AM
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SC Wrangler - 2016-05-19 10:56 AM

Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-19 8:26 AM
cecollins0811 - 2016-05-19 7:36 AM If he's never done this before then why did he do it now?
Β It happens to everyone occasionally. The guy I'm using has been shoeing 4-5 horses for me for 3 years, and he quicked one yesterday. The nail had a little bend in it and he didn't realize it until he drove it. Β He pulled it right out, but she's a little sore on it. Β Think running a splinter under your fingernail--it hurts for a few days.Β 

If a farrier says he has never quicked a horse or had a hot nail he is either lying or just started last week!!Β 

AMEN!
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-05-20 6:16 AM
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SC Wrangler - 2016-05-19 10:56 AM

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cecollins0811 - 2016-05-19 7:36 AM If he's never done this before then why did he do it now?
Β It happens to everyone occasionally. The guy I'm using has been shoeing 4-5 horses for me for 3 years, and he quicked one yesterday. The nail had a little bend in it and he didn't realize it until he drove it. Β He pulled it right out, but she's a little sore on it. Β Think running a splinter under your fingernail--it hurts for a few days.Β 

If a farrier says he has never quicked a horse or had a hot nail he is either lying or just started last week!!Β 

It does happen to everyone once in a while.... You don't even have to quick one. You can just get the nail too close to the inside and apply pressure to it, make it bulge to the inside, and cause it to get sore and abscess. Those nails will not show blood and usually take a day or so to show soreness.Tetanus shot is a must if the horse is not currant. Watch for the abscess that can occur and be sure it gets drained.
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Cowgirl Kat
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-05-20 3:50 PM
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It sounds like you are doing everything right, keep at it with the epsom salt in hot water and maybe add a little bute. Or you could do an epsom salt poultice as well. If it isn't improved in a few days I would start hoof testing to see if there is an abscess starting somewhere. I hope your horse is doing better, saw this post is from 2 days ago.
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BigSkyDream
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-05-21 8:49 AM
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I'm learning to shoe horses, and the fact of the matter is, it's going to happen. Every farrier has done it, and none want to do it. You're driving a nail up a small area that is nailable and very close to sensitive structures. Too far in and you quick, too far out and you risk the shoe coming off more easily, neither of which makes the owner happy.

Usually you can tell if you have or not, so you pull the nail and put iodine in it.

It'll heal.

If he's been a good farrier, a quick here or there over the years doesn't make him a bad one. Keep him.

If it happened all the time, that's another matter.
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Wild1
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2016-05-21 12:18 PM
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thanks everyone for the replies..I got upset since my farrier is gone for 10 days vacation 2 days after this incident. He put the shoe back on right away, didn't want to leave him barefoot. I did give about a gram or 2 of bute for the first 3 days. As of yesterday my horse is totally fine in a straight line, but just a tad bit off in a circle. I'm just hoping and praying no abscess is starting to brew due to it. Hoping for complete soundness today!
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