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| cheryl makofka - 2016-05-25 6:32 PM
Our males are neutered out females are not.
Cost around here, I am not going to pay 500-800 a dog to have them spayed.
I also don't like that the current research my vet was sharing with me is showing spayed females are more likely to develop cancer then non spayed females, this is completely opposite of what most vets are preaching.
The rationale behind the most current research is by removing the organs we are eliminating the hormones. With women how many are on hormone replacement therapy or have physical issues or osteoporosis as a result of having a hysterectomy. It is the same thing with animals.
I also don't see the need for the unnecessary pain we put these females through as it is major abdominal surgery.
Not many vets are doing laparoscopic tubals which is even more expensive but less invasive.
This is interesting, maybe I need not feel so guilty about not getting my female Heeler fixed. We used to raise Heelers when they were scarce around here, and have had an un-neutered female around here for decades and (knock on wood) never had a litter we had not deliberately planned on. We watch them like a hawk when they are in heat. Haven't had pups in over 20 years. I did have my last one fixed and lost her when she split open and spilled her guts out on the front seat of my truck due to the state Veterinary College 's total ineptitude in closing her with one long running stitch. So long in fact that they had to splice the suture material rather than tie off and start over, and she split open like she had a zipper (over two weeks after the surgery).
So I have ben VERY reluctant to fix the female I have now. AM scared to death something will happen to her too, but have been feeling guilty that I might be raising her chances of cancer as per the vet.
Now I feel a little better. Anyone have any research to support this point?
As for getting a rescue, there is no way that I would be able to walk in and pick out one from the multitude. Am also partial to Heelers and once they bond to a person they may never bond to a second, Am I a bad person because I want to know how my dog is bred, to see it's parents intelligence, temperament and working savvy? These are the things that made MY pups in demand years ago, and things I look for but would not find at a rescue. Papers don't mean a thing to me, the parents do. IMHO the AKC tends to promote papers over quality, part of the problem.
And speaking of rescues, there is no freaking way that I am going to pay big bucks for a rescue only to have them tell me how I keep my dog ,under threat of repossession. My BIL adopted a Brittany Spaniel from a rescue. They charged $300-500 for the dog, had to have a home inspection, could not tie the dog up, could not shut it in a room when company came, the list goes on. I understand looking out for the welfare of the rescue but when you eliminate homes based on unrealistic expectations, just how much good are you doing? I have seen where the shelter won't adopt a cat out to be a barn cat! Therefor all of my barn cats have been cats that wandered in and stayed. Each one has been fixed as soon as I could get my hands on it.
I wish that people would take responsibility. Ant cat or dog that becomes family is FAMILY and will not be abandoned due to birth of a child, allergies, new boyfriend, or whatever other excuses people use to justify their actions. Yes I have an unspayed female but I make darn sure that she is not exposed while she is in heat. So I don't know how to answer the poll, as usual, lol. | |
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Location: on my horse | kakbarrelracer - 2016-05-25 11:19 AM
ridejg - 2016-05-24 1:18 PM
My New Years resolution this year was to get our 10 female barn cats spayed....Mission Accomplished! YAY!!!!!
Our female dogs are spayed as well, and it bugs me totally that people insist on buying a dog, sometimes for huge amounts of money, instead of going to their local humane society and giving a wonderful animal a forever home. Shelter animals rock!!!!
I'm glad we are able to buy a dog if we want. I support breeders who do the testing on their dogs and spend the time learning pedigrees, dis positions and breeding quality animals. It's great that you want to rescue dogs from a shelter but it is also great that there are responsible breeders out there working towards bettering the breed of animal they raise. We have one dog that we bought and one that came to live with us. I like them both but planning on buying again when we get another one.
I've never purchased a dog, but am planning to for my next dog. However, this dog will have a job to fulfill and I am seeking a very specific breed/temperament/type and want a healthy pup to raise and work.
We have always adopted or plucked pets out of bad situations and everything is spayed and neutered. The purchased pup will also be spayed/neutered when the time comes. I just don't want that burden on my shoulders of having an unaltered animal around that may or may not escape my sight and end up bred/breeding. | |
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Location: Arkansas | DLV - 2016-05-24 12:34 PM
1DSoon - 2016-05-24 12:07 PM
SmokinGirlie - 2016-05-24 1:01 PM
All mine are fixed but a big downfall around my area is there isn't assistance for getting them fixed, not even for farm cats, which I think is crazy.
why should the public assist in taking care of someones animals/pets?
I see your point here but there are many many many times a pet is just dumped at your place... to me, it isn't fair to assume a person should pay the full cost to spay and neuter an animal that was dumped at your place and I've heard of many having up to 5-10 or more dumped at their houses... the cost can be overwhelming but is necessary to prevent MORE animals.
I had someone drop off 5 dogs one day in my yard---along with a tinfoil pan and bag of dog food. And I got them all fixed and found a home for one but kept the rest as our "shop dogs" because the shelter was full (imagine that, huh??) and I just couldn't put them to sleep.
I have a gorgeous Siberian Husky (he is a rescue), and I have so many people want to breed their female (German Shepherd, Husky, Pit Bull, wolf---you name it) to him. I always say no and give "the talk" about how so many animals in shelters need homes, etc. But you can see their eyes glaze over and they tune out. I don't get it. | |
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| We were involved with rescue for awhile and fostered many dogs. Mutts are great and we still have two that are older now. I hate when people say all breeders are bad or you should always adopt. Sometimes people want to purchase a pedigreed dog for a specific purpose and that's great ! All of our dogs are spayed and neutered besides our breeding dogs. We raise French Brittanys for bird dogs and we evaluate our breeding dogs very closely both mentally, ability, health testing, conformationally etc. before they ever produce a litter. If they don't make the cut they are spayed/neutered before leaving us and are placed as a hunting companion in a appropriate home. If for some reason one of our puppies find themselves needing to be rehomed later they are to come back to us. Our barn cats are also all spayed/neutered. | |
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