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When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?

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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-08-30 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?



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This might sound really bratty but:

Honestly I hate it when people contact me about a horse that I have already sold and expect me to send videos, vet records, etc for free.

If a buyer calls me and ask how much it would cost for full disclosure, that's great, but I have a really busy time schedule and can't afford to go digging through the archives for free.

If a buyer calls me and asks what I did with the horse, depending on how I feel about the horse or experiences I had, I might take a few minutes, but I'll likely politely pass.

Mostly, I just really want to be left out of other people horse deals, and I certainly won't go out of my way to go looking for trouble.





Edited by classicpotatochip 2016-08-30 10:31 AM
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-08-30 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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If someone has questions about a horse I owned previously, I don't mind answering. I won't send videos, pictures or vet records. I would answer the questions for the good of the horse. I know how frustrating it can be trying to figure out new horses and any help is always appreciated by me. I AM NOT sticking my nose into someone else's horse deal. You are responsible for your own research, but I will answer questions honestly, if contacted.
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Red Raider
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2016-08-30 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?



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Three 4 Luck - 2016-08-29 1:58 PM
zipper - 2016-08-29 1:45 PM The flip side is you can be sued for interferring with a business deal. I wrote an article on this a couple of months back for Barrel Horse News. 
 Under what circumstances?  

Depends on what state you live in and what their laws are regarding this area of dealings/contracts.  Some states provide that any interference with a business relationship can be sued upon by the party suing would have to prove quite a bit to get there in court.  Usually a good fact question that has to be answered is if the parties would have actually contracted without the interference and that can be hard to say "yes" to when you are just inquiring about the horse.  Secondly, if you do interfere with a sale/contract on a sale, you may be entitled to assert a legal defense or privilege that you did so to prevent one of the parties (the person buying) from being harmed because you knew of the false advertisement and reported it.  If it goes that far, you better have good proof backing up what you've said or you might be in trouble.  

Moral of the story is if you are going to say something, be sure you have a way to back up or otherwise prove what you know and if you can, try to keep it on the down low so it's hard to be tracked if you do speak up.  If someone is truly trying to sell a defunct horse and is clearly misleading people with the advertisement, you'll probably be okay in the end but you might be looking at a lengthy court battle to get free and clear. 

 
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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-08-30 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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Every horse I've ever seen for sale on the internet that I had knowledge about was lied about in the ad. Every single one. With the obvious exception being unbroke and unridden youngsters. And even some of them have been misrepresented.

What's the lesson? There's a reason they are being sold on the internet. You don't have to sell proven horses on the internet. When we still showing we had two great horse, {that we still own today}. Neither was for sale. But it was the rare week that went by without someone trying to buy one or both of them.

There's a horse I've been trying to buy for 3 years now. The owner keeps telling me that he's not for sale. And I'm not the only one in line for that horse.

If he popped up on the internet for sale today I would be very leery of buying him.

And I learned this lesson the way most lessons are learned, the hard way.

 
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FearTheBigGrayHorse
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2016-08-30 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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All I can say is that is it frustrating to see! Their is a young girl in my area that bough a 3 year old and he was out of her league. Now he has major bucking issues and is considered "dangerous". She has him for sale on our local facebook pages. she says she is selling him because she "no longer has time for him". Doesn't say anything about him be a nasty rank bucker. Then its like what do you do, when you know she is a dishonest horse seller. I guess walk away...?
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abrad12
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2016-08-31 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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If the post is like "100% sound" and the horse isn't, obviously that's an issue. I DONT think that people should have to put all the bad in the post because honestly, no one would be interested. As long as they tell people about the issues when they are called/messaged. I have an issue with previous owners who haven't seen the horse in years and expect them to still have nasty quirks that they let them get away with so they start messaging everyone commenting on the ad that the horse has issues when seller is letting people know about previous probs through pm. UGH. Sorry, rant..Mind your own business. Hopefully sellers will be honest, if not buyer can do their research and get vet checks.
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fatchance
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-08-31 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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If someone contacts me about said horse, then I would tell what I know....and even that can be a double edge sword.
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horsesinharleton
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2016-08-31 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: When you see a horse for sale with lies in the ad?


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GLP - 2016-08-30 10:34 AM

If someone has questions about a horse I owned previously, I don't mind answering. I won't send videos, pictures or vet records. I would answer the questions for the good of the horse. I know how frustrating it can be trying to figure out new horses and any help is always appreciated by me. I AM NOT sticking my nose into someone else's horse deal. You are responsible for your own research, but I will answer questions honestly, if contacted.

I would think that in someone's diligent research, contacting a previous owner would fall under that research. If previous owners aren't willing to take at least a little time to tell what they know about the horse when THEY owned it, it can be a little frustrating. Thank you for taking the time to at least discuss the horse!
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