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CrossCreek
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-04-16 10:51 AM
Subject: what is ringbone?



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considering buying a horse for my child to sort and playday on. They said he has ringbone in front right foot, and they just bute him and use him...or I can get him nerved for $1200. Horse is $1500 16 year old kid safe. Can anyone tell me about ringbone, and is it a 'deal killer"? 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-04-16 11:06 AM
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Ringbone is pastern arthritis and/or bony changes

I had one- he was fairly progressed.... not sound...

I wouldn't do it. JMO 
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azleigh
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2014-04-16 11:32 AM
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I wouldn't do it either. Ringbone is arthritis (calcification) around the pastern or coffin joint. I have two with it. One is a 10 year old gelding that I've had to turn out. I've tried every treatment out there and nothing has worked on him. The other is an old Jr. Rodeo mare that my 6 year old daughter barrel races. We don't ride her much during the week. We bute her and my daughter makes two runs on her, once a month at the jr rodeos and that's it. She's not sound when she's not buted so we don't want to torture her. There are those few out there that are/were successful with it, Scamper had it for example. It's just not worth it in my opinion. Yes, you could nerve him but all that does is take away the pain, the condition still exists which isn't very humane in my opinion.
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-04-16 11:42 AM
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Low ringbone or high ringbone? Low ringbone there are no treatment options other then Pain/Anti-inflammatory meds and injections. High ringbone they can surgically fuse the joint. Unfortunately you can not successfully nerve for ringbone. Vets used to do the procedure but most clients were very unhappy with the results as the horse becomes prone to tripping and most became unsafe to ride. (This I learned from three vets when trying to save mine).

I had one with high ringbone that developed in his 20's. I finally put him down at 29 (for matters unrelated to the ringbone) and he could be used lightly with bute but wouldn't hold up to an entire day. I had another that was younger that developed aggressive low ringbone and after spending several thousand dollars on attempting to keep him pasture sound I finally put him down.

Personally I'd pass and find something else.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-04-16 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: what is ringbone?


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RunNitroRun - 2014-04-16 11:42 AM Low ringbone or high ringbone? Low ringbone there are no treatment options other then Pain/Anti-inflammatory meds and injections. High ringbone they can surgically fuse the joint. Unfortunately you can not successfully nerve for ringbone. Vets used to do the procedure but most clients were very unhappy with the results as the horse becomes prone to tripping and most became unsafe to ride. (This I learned from three vets when trying to save mine). I had one with high ringbone that developed in his 20's. I finally put him down at 29 (for matters unrelated to the ringbone) and he could be used lightly with bute but wouldn't hold up to an entire day. I had another that was younger that developed aggressive low ringbone and after spending several thousand dollars on attempting to keep him pasture sound I finally put him down. Personally I'd pass and find something else.

Mine had high ringbone. By the time I had him, I don't think the surgery would have helped.

He was a rescue off of a kill truck. The vets looked at his xray and couldn't believe he was walking let alone ridden... he was retired shortly after I got him with a friend of mine.  
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CrossCreek
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-04-16 1:38 PM
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Just Plain Lucky
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-16 1:43 PM
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My 21 year old retired gelding has it in is right front leg. He had earned his place long before the ringbone reared its ugly head, but I would NOT knowingly by a horse with it.

Sorry, wish I could be more positive. =(

 
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CanChasinCowgirl18
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-04-16 2:20 PM
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My two 1d/rodeo horses have low ringbone and severe Sidebone. I feed them 2 scoops of Tight Joints Plus a day to keep inflammation out. Bute on weekends. 1 is 14 the other is 15. Neither one are showing any signs of slowing down. I can't fix it but I can manage it. It wouldn't scare me away to do it again.
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BarrelStarr
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2016-08-27 6:45 PM
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Bumping post because my mare may be having this now. Anyone wlse barrel racing one with sudebone/ringbone?
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-08-27 8:49 PM
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BarrelStarr - 2016-08-27 6:45 PM

Bumping post because my mare may be having this now. Anyone wlse barrel racing one with sudebone/ringbone?

side bone and ring bone are different. Side bone is usually not a big deal unless it's really big, then it can be painful.

High ring bone is arthritis of the Proximal interphalangeal joint- the pastern. Surgical arthrodesis can be done to fuse the pastern, but that in itself is a long recovery process.

Low ring bone is arthritis of the distal interphalangeal joint- the coffin joint. It's a high motion joint so it can't be fused.

The other options for treatment are pain management like oral NSAIDs and joint injections. But that works only to a point; at some point it gets bad enough where they just can't stay comfortable.


Ringbone is one of the few things that are deal breakers for me. I had a 3 year old with it in the right hind pastern. IDK what sort of trauma started it... but I noticed she was a little off and we took rads... Ended up trading her for a long yearling at the time because I knew she would not hold up to the amount of riding and competing I was going to do on her.

Edited by casualdust07 2016-08-27 8:51 PM
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CE's wrapn3
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2016-08-29 8:07 AM
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 Thats too much money for a 16 yr old with ringbone IMO
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2016-08-29 8:25 AM
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I had a friend that had one, she bought it knowing he had it, used him for several years before he wasn't able to compete.

How "advanced" is the ringbone?

Will you be able to buy the horse & your child use it long enough to get to the point they are ready for another horse?
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-08-29 8:26 AM
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Not to highjack the thread, but can RB be passed onto offspring?
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-08-29 10:37 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2016-08-29 8:26 AM

Not to highjack the thread, but can RB be passed onto offspring?

Yes, it can .. it is a conformation fault in the front legs.
From anything with knocked knees, crooked legs, toe
in or out and pasterns that are too short or too long
which all of the above puts adverse pressure inside
the horses front feet ..

As riding horses you may never have a problem but asking
for speed and hard turns will make his leg problems
very real and permanent ..

Doc Bar horses were well known for crooked legs that led to
all kinds of problems and lots of surgeries, money spent etc ..


Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2016-08-29 11:39 AM
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Cowgirl Kat
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-08-29 12:20 PM
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I would pass personally. It's going to be more problems than it is worth. JMO 
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2016-08-29 1:47 PM
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We have one..hes the so's main head horse...so far injections and bute or previcox have worked for him..his is low and very noticable....i would pass on buying one....im still stumped on how the so failed to see it....:(.....m
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Lopin' Leopard
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-08-30 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: what is ringbone?



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Being a mother of two, a "kid safe" horse is worth it's weight in gold!  We JUST sold one with potential (I say potential becasue we have hree different vet opinions about it, X rays were done) ring bone.  Horse is only 3!  There are a lot of maintenance options out there.  I'd appreciate the sellers being honest with you.  Most horse end up on some kind of maintenance in their lives.  Whats the preferance of injecting hocks over a pastern joint?  How hard is your kid going to be riding this horse? 
Maybe ask if they have X rays, if not, pay for some and talk to you vet about it.  This is what I offered potential buyers on ours, here's the facts, here are the X rays, talk to your vet about it.
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