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Location: Not where I should be... | Buckles - 2016-10-08 5:51 AM Thanks. I will just ask about taking him right to the equine hospital, or I find someone else. They are just the biggest hospital around here, why I had them look at him to begin with. Its not my regular vet. She seems to think its all muscle related with him, but from what I have seen here, a lot of you all with horse's with kissing spine didn't really display what was "normal" symptoms for a vet. A member here was nice enough to take a video of her horse's muscle pain that was going in for kissing spine surgery, my horse is worse that that painwise. At the moment he has had 4 1/2 weeks off and is no better.... and I have only owned him 6 1/2 weeks and had only two actual rides on him 
Can you describe this muscle pain? I had mine x-rayed and no KS found, but he still has some weird muscle spasms. I'm wondering if there still could be something not seen on the x-rays. |
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| rodeodreamin - 2016-10-09 8:41 AM
Buckles - 2016-10-08 5:51 AM Thanks. I will just ask about taking him right to the equine hospital, or I find someone else. They are just the biggest hospital around here, why I had them look at him to begin with. Its not my regular vet. She seems to think its all muscle related with him, but from what I have seen here, a lot of you all with horse's with kissing spine didn't really display what was "normal" symptoms for a vet. A member here was nice enough to take a video of her horse's muscle pain that was going in for kissing spine surgery, my horse is worse that that painwise. At the moment he has had 4 1/2 weeks off and is no better.... and I have only owned him 6 1/2 weeks and had only two actual rides on him
I will pm you a video of this horse. I have another horse that had indentical back pain, he has an SI injury, but also was having muscle spasms. We suspect pssm 2. We have him on a high protein diet, magnesium, vit e. |
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| I should also clarify, my gelding has what he described as "mild kissing spine." IMO - he isn't true KS. He never had an issue until he took a bad fall 2 summers ago. I believe it is most likely soft tissue. X-rays showed narrowed processes but they are not touching or rubbing like true KS. My gelding has a longer back, big wither but I wouldn't call him swayed. He gets tight throughout his lumbar area. Massage, lunging and even just walking him can loosen it up. If I could afford an MRI, I think I would get a lot more answers but I don't think my course of action would change. |
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| Taking him up to the equine hospital tomorrow for x-rays |
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| Absolutely nothing abnormal on his x-rays |
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| Buckles - 2016-10-14 11:28 AM
Absolutely nothing abnormal on his x-rays
That's good news!!!! KS is irreversible so if it is something else, it may be better. |
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Location: Arkansas | Buckles - 2016-10-14 11:28 AM
Absolutely nothing abnormal on his x-rays
That sounds promising, rather than finding something ominous on there. Prayers for nothing major to be going on |
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| Yes, now we need to figure out why hes so muscle sore though. Didn't find anything going on with his hind end either. He flexes very slightly positive on his left hind, but nothing that should be causing his back pain. Vet thinks the last owner used a very poorly fitting saddle on him, but I don't really know. He definately had atrophy behind his shoulder, but the rest of his back looks okay. Not great and muscled up, but I have seen horse's backs in worse shape. |
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| Find someone with a laser or centurion blanket that you can use. This will help with the muscle pain. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Buckles - 2016-10-15 11:25 AM Yes, now we need to figure out why hes so muscle sore though. Didn't find anything going on with his hind end either. He flexes very slightly positive on his left hind, but nothing that should be causing his back pain. Vet thinks the last owner used a very poorly fitting saddle on him, but I don't really know. He definately had atrophy behind his shoulder, but the rest of his back looks okay. Not great and muscled up, but I have seen horse's backs in worse shape.
If it's possibly residual soreness from lactic acid build up my vet fixed my mare with a drug I've never even heard of...My mare tied up back in April and I fought tight, sore back muscles with her for the next two months after. Nothing I tried would knock it out completely. Finally took her in to see what he recommended. He put her on 20cc's Lactanase IV for 5 days and RVI 2cc's sub-q for 3-6 days. Within a few days she had no soreness whatsoever.
I could have been chasing kissing spine, changing pads or saddles, or wasting my money with massage, etc..
http://www.myholisticpetvet.com/tag/rubeola-viral-immunomodulator/ |
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| Did you test for pssm? |
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| Just type 1 for pssm, he is n/n. Might do the type 2 hair test with equiseq, but I already have two other horses being tested and haven't gotten results yet. The company is apparently really behind in testing and I don't want to send anymore money to them before I get my results for these two. |
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| See if you can find a bottle of RVI. It's insanely hard to find, but is a miracle for mysterious muscle soreness.
5 dosages subcutaneously. Look it up and get calling around to see if you can find any! |
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