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Location: Southern Michigan | My mare is 14 years old and for the past several years every time she have been given spring or fall shots she has a reaction. Normally its a pretty good size swollen area, and can last up to a couple weeks. She has never abscessed to them, just swells.
We stopped giving our other old horse and donkeys shots since they don't leave the farm, and I seem to remember them all having some sort of reaction as well the past year or two they received shots. The donkey did abscess the last time he got shots. I've had other's abscess a long time ago too, but took it as a freak thing since the other horses were fine.
Our vet would normally give the shot on the rump, but I request the neck so if it were to abscess it'd be easier to deal with.
Has anyone ever had a horse that was just this sensitive. I'm kind of stuck in a quandary, is it her or is it the shots/vet? I have a great vet, although a little old school at times, I trust him with mine and my horses life.
When my mare does have a reaction, I've tried everything and nothing will seem to decrease the swelling. It just needs to run it's course.
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| I have had a couple of horses that had reactions to vaccines. What the vet recommended to me was give banamine the day before and a couple hours before giving the vaccines. You may need to follow up with one more dose the day after. This always worked very well for me. |
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Location: Southern Michigan | Thanks! I will have to give that a try next time. It's probably too late now since she got it friday and it's now Monday. |
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Location: NC | My gelding always gets a reaction to shots. Although the past couple years havent been as bad, but i always give banamine when he gets shots. He gets the stiff neck and temp and stands there like he is not happy.
Edited to add hes 20 this year and ive had him since he was 7. Plus i just realized that since i started adequan with him hes had less reactions to just reg shots.
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Location: WI | Have you tried different brands? Sometimes it is the adjuvent that they react to. I give my own and spread them out, so I know exactly which vaccine he is reacting to. If one does swell up, I'll bute them. |
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| I have stopped giving the 5/6 way shots and break them up into 2 single shots at a time since my gelding swells up so bad he won't move from the combo vax. He seems to do just fine if we do it this way. |
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| On another note, I had a vet tell me that a horse over age 10 that has been getting annual vaccines no longer need them. THeir immunity is as good as it will get. The only one he still recommends is Tetnus and Westnile. |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | linds - 2016-11-14 7:03 AM
Have you tried different brands? Sometimes it is the adjuvent that they react to. I give my own and spread them out, so I know exactly which vaccine he is reacting to. If one does swell up, I'll bute them.
I had to do this. Had a gelding that couldn't take something in the Fort Dodge vaccines.. switched to a different brand and fixed it. No abcesses but would get a great big welt that took a few days to go down. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Here in Oklahoma if horse is going to race tracks we are required to give EHV-1 shots every 90 days. Two of ours that were done had a bad reaction. Both of those were given in the chest. They got very sore and one could barelly walk. All the rest were given in the neck and had no reaction. Maybe the location has something to do with it.
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Location: Southern Michigan | I will ask if the vet uses a certain brand. It doesn't matter if it's a 5/6 way, just a 2 way booster, or where it's at. In spring the poor girls neck is swollen on both sides from two shots. I've also tried chest and rump. I will try the banamine a few days ahead come spring shots. My dad called me this morning and said the swelling was worse and had swelling around her eye too. (I have no idea if it's a separate incident or not). So hot compresses and bute for her. He said she opened her eye after the compress.
We heard once they're so old and been vaccinated for so long, they don't need it. That's one of the reason our retired pasture ornaments stopped getting it. But I'm keeping her utd in case I can afford to haul to shows again in the future. Plus being so close to Canada, I want a solid history if I even went back to rodeos there. |
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Location: Nebraska | Mine had reactions to fort dodge as well. I switched brands and haven't had a problem, knock on wood |
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Location: Texas | Queenie07 - 2016-11-13 9:01 PM
My mare is 14 years old and for the past several years every time she have been given spring or fall shots she has a reaction. Normally its a pretty good size swollen area, and can last up to a couple weeks. She has never abscessed to them, just swells.
We stopped giving our other old horse and donkeys shots since they don't leave the farm, and I seem to remember them all having some sort of reaction as well the past year or two they received shots. The donkey did abscess the last time he got shots. I've had other's abscess a long time ago too, but took it as a freak thing since the other horses were fine.
Our vet would normally give the shot on the rump, but I request the neck so if it were to abscess it'd be easier to deal with.
Has anyone ever had a horse that was just this sensitive. I'm kind of stuck in a quandary, is it her or is it the shots/vet? I have a great vet, although a little old school at times, I trust him with mine and my horses life.
When my mare does have a reaction, I've tried everything and nothing will seem to decrease the swelling. It just needs to run it's course.
Any ideas/suggestions?
Giving them in the rump will often times make them less sore than in the neck, which is probably why he wanted to give it there. |
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Location: Texas | I sat in on a meeting with Merck last week... the speaker said they were doing studies with titer levels to see if we can make headway in understanding what level is sufficient and how long it is effective.
A general "idea" of vaccines you could probably be "ok" with skipping if your horse never leaves its pasture are for the diseases that are spread from horse to horse- like flu/rhino
Other diseases that are transmitted from fly or mosquito vectors or that live in the soil should not be skipped- VEWT and WNV
Theres most likely longer acting immunity to some of these vaccines but its not known.. its probably true that older horses who have been vaccinated for years would probably have immunity if they werent vaccinated for a couple years, but its not known yet how much immunity they would have. Hopefully in the next couple of years we will have more answers. |
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