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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Done or attempted an internship and worked in your mare band into the deal? I would love to go somewhere and learn more but I have 17 horses that I won't let leave my sight... mostly broodies and 2 studs I've worked really hard at getting. I could sell some yes but some I won't move because It would be hard to replace them. I've thought of looking for a place then looking for work but it just seems like a huge leap to move without solid plans with that number of animals. Just curious I'd love to learn more and my location limits me. |
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| Not a stupid question, but it does seem like a pretty unrealistic idea. What type of internship are you looking for?
A breeding facility may allow 1-2 horses.
Most trainers will allow you 1 but some that I know won't allow any personal horses on their property.
Your best bet is to either sell down to a select few if you can find an internship that will allow a few, or find a place that will accept you and then look for places to rent or buy nearby.
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 Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | I agree that you could move one maybe two but 17...... |
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Location: Deep South | I think you would have a lot better odds of securing an internship then looking for a pasture to rent nearby.
No one with their own facility is going to be willing to welcome in 17 horses. As most people making a living from training etc, utilize every stall/pen for a paying customer. |
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Location: N Texas | BamaCanChaser - 2016-12-08 12:38 PM
I think you would have a lot better odds of securing an internship then looking for a pasture to rent nearby.
No one with their own facility is going to be willing to welcome in 17 horses. As most people making a living from training etc, utilize every stall/pen for a paying customer.
Agree 100%. If you try to make it part of the deal, you'll be a less desirable candidate and they'll choose someone with fewer demands.
Unless they happen to have lots of land that's not being used, but that's extremely unlikely.
Edited by Gunner11 2016-12-08 1:33 PM
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Location: Canada | You're best to find an area with a couple of trainers you'd be interested in working with then see what is out there for places to rent.
The odds of you finding someone who'd take 17 horses would be 1 in a million unless you're paying full board on all of them. Even so most want you there to focus on their horses not your own.
The easiest thing would be to find someone you trust to care for your animals and leave them where they are. Arrange for a fair wage and if you're overly worried that they won't be well cared for work out a deal with your vet to pop by monthly and do a quick overall score on them and set up a couple of security cameras pointed at your pens so you can log in and check how they're doing.
This way you can focus on learning and gaining experience while your horses are safe in your pens and cared for by someone you trust. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I understand I was thinking people who had studs they wanted to promote and could use the mares (FDD, runnaway winner, holland ease, are just to name a few own proven daughters it would save them buying mares if I had something like a 2 year internship). I have some nice mares and I can stand my race stud at a farm. I was wanting to learn more about the training side of things and it's not possible around here.
I wasn't thinking of profiting from it but basically like a lease
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Babcocks and many others would allow one horse per person. But it is unrealistic that someone would let you take in 17 horses. Most anyone that needs an intern does so because they have so many horses of their own that need worked. There are so many people out there that will intern for free. We found that out at Babcocks when my husband wanted to ride under one of the leading trainers. We got the job starting colts for him with the understanding that once there was an opening under a trainer, my husband would get in. It never happened because we needed $$$ to live and we watched intern after intern come in for FREE. Many from other countries. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-12-08 2:41 PM
Babcocks and many others would allow one horse per person. But it is unrealistic that someone would let you take in 17 horses. Most anyone that needs an intern does so because they have so many horses of their own that need worked. There are so many people out there that will intern for free. We found that out at Babcocks when my husband wanted to ride under one of the leading trainers. We got the job starting colts for him with the understanding that once there was an opening under a trainer, my husband would get in. It never happened because we needed $$$ to live and we watched intern after intern come in for FREE. Many from other countries.
I understand 17 is unrealistic I was just saying I have that many total of proven mares I could lease to the person for breeding purposes; but I could sell off some. I'm talking my power house proven horses and producers. I just shot that number out there. I don't want to sell some I've spent 10 years finding them and can't see leasing to others far away while I'm doing something like this and not have my eye on them. Maybe I'm coming across differently then I am meaning to. I don't want t unload 17 and say here feed these and promote my guys I honestly could sell off over half and not worry it's the ones I've spent years searching for. I was more thinking of a you scratch my back I scratch yours with the ones I know would produce for them (like a lease I don't want the foal or anything) and help promote their stallion and in return I'd get interning for free and can keep an eye on them and they can be kept close by saving them coming up with tens of thousands of dollars for mares and getting foals from their stud they possibly want to promote. It's a huge long shot I guess. I might just be thinking to weird... forget what I am saying. Lol I guess the best bet is to rent/ buy property and keep breeding on the side while I look for intern work. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | ndiehl - 2016-12-08 2:10 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-12-08 2:41 PM Babcocks and many others would allow one horse per person. But it is unrealistic that someone would let you take in 17 horses. Most anyone that needs an intern does so because they have so many horses of their own that need worked. There are so many people out there that will intern for free. We found that out at Babcocks when my husband wanted to ride under one of the leading trainers. We got the job starting colts for him with the understanding that once there was an opening under a trainer, my husband would get in. It never happened because we needed $$$ to live and we watched intern after intern come in for FREE. Many from other countries. I understand 17 is unrealistic I was just saying I have that many total of proven mares I could lease to the person for breeding purposes; but I could sell off some. I'm talking my power house proven horses and producers. I just shot that number out there. I don't want to sell some I've spent 10 years finding them and can't see leasing to others far away while I'm doing something like this and not have my eye on them. Maybe I'm coming across differently then I am meaning to. I don't want t unload 17 and say here feed these and promote my guys I honestly could sell off over half and not worry it's the ones I've spent years searching for. I was more thinking of a you scratch my back I scratch yours with the ones I know would produce for them (like a lease I don't want the foal or anything ) and help promote their stallion and in return I'd get interning for free and can keep an eye on them and they can be kept close by saving them coming up with tens of thousands of dollars for mares and getting foals from their stud they possibly want to promote. It's a huge long shot I guess. I might just be thinking to weird... forget what I am saying. Lol I guess the best bet is to rent/ buy property and keep breeding on the side while I look for intern work.
I know your mares and you have some good ones, but most people that already have an established program are going to own what they want. I know someone with a super nice stallion that I thought breeding some of my "daughters of greats" would really do us both a favor. I offered a foal share and even had a mare that wasn't loving the pasture life that I knew would do good in a smaller program. She was a proven mare and proven producer. Nope, they weren't interested. Not saying you couldn't look into it, I just wouldn't get my heart set. We all think the world of our own horses, but not every one else will nor will they want to be involved. I know most places don't even want you to bring a dog. |
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Location: Florida.. | its also to risky to take that many outside horses ..if you were going to pay board on all but one or two then possibly if they had room . lol.. but interns get a free stall and lessons and coaching and experience and free place to live (share living quarters with working students and grooms) |
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