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| kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-08 2:09 PM
I will not be running her again for the rest of the year. Possibly every now and then, take her through the pattern but nothing too serious and no competitions. The vet suggested we not do injections now because I won't be racing or doing hard work with winter coming, and Star may sit for a week or two and not be ridden depending on how cold it is. So doing the injections now is pointless. As for injectable joint supplements, those are SO expensive. $300, for Adequan, just for SEVEN shots. And I'm sure other brands aren't much less cheaper. I really can't afford to pay $300 for a month's worth of joint supplements. And there's mixed opinions on oral and injectable, good and bad for both. My vet uses oral supplements, and injectable ones too, so if it didn't work, I doubt she'd suggest it.
If you aren't going to inject, I wouldn't even do the barrel pattern. The hocks will still hurt, they will hurt her even with trail riding.
You need to get X-rays of the hocks to actually see what you are dealing with. |
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| CE's wrapn3 - 2016-11-09 7:33 AM
kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-08 10:50 PM I decided to try an oral joint supplement. I'm going with SmartFlex III Resilience by SmartPak. Excited to try this and see how well it works for her. I'll also be doing stretches and stuff with her as well. Hoping to go for a nice little ride Thursday :)
This isn't going to help your horse at all. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Ditto. Injections and get an injectable joint supplement. Feed through supplements are a waste of money. Period. |
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Location: North Dakota | kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-08 10:50 PM I decided to try an oral joint supplement. I'm going with SmartFlex III Resilience by SmartPak. Excited to try this and see how well it works for her. I'll also be doing stretches and stuff with her as well. Hoping to go for a nice little ride Thursday :)
For the upcoming winter (with no barrel racing), this is probably fine. Remember, no pattern work. Only ride in straight lines, or in very large circles.
But in the spring, when you are ready to do barrels again, it will not be enough. But you can address it then. (1) Get x-rays. See what you are dealing with. (2) Most likely, inject.
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Very pretty mare, I think she looks sore though, too. If you aren't getting her injected right now maybe invest in some Back on Track hock boots to keep her comfortable until then.
ETA I actually think it might be a good idea to get her injected now, even if you aren't planning on running or riding that much. It will give the inflammation a chance to go down.
Edited by livexlovexrodeo 2016-11-10 12:00 PM
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Location: Kansas | We decided to get Acti-Flex 4000 and a tub of MSM. We'll do this over the winter and come back and address it in the spring. Going to buy some BOT Hock Boots on Friday for her also. |
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Location: Florida.. | The horse is sore.. really sore.. Oral supplements are good for preventative and for your mindset. but they wont help .. MSM might help with pain Bute might help with pain for a few days but honestly your going to end up with a BIGGER problem riding her sore .. Trail riding even.. sore is sore.. her back was affected and this tells me its been going on awhile.. only good thing you can do is pasture her and walk possibly.. surprised vet didnt take a more aggressive approach even Pentason and adequan would have helped with joints.. not bashing but know the outcome of this.. arena sore,pain to stifle area, back soreness, a horse with a bad attitude.. its not a headache and give a aspirin.. there are changes going on in the hocks... google..Id inject soon
Edited by Bibliafarm 2016-11-20 10:35 AM
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Location: Illinois | First, I would find a different vet. Second, get x-rays. Third, if it was my horse I would inject and find a good Chiro.
Whether you are going to run barrels or not I would still fix her hocks and get her out of pain.
Oral supplements for joints in my experience do NOT work. Waste of time and money.
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| I promise I am not crazy when I say that this oral supplement worked for our horse. There are a lot that are poor quality, but there are some top notch supplements coming out also.
http://equimanagement.com/article/texas-clinical-trial-equithrive-j...
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Location: Kansas | Thanks magicgunsmoke.
I will not be switching vets. I trust mine completely and won't switch just because she didn't do what you guys want. I'm trying out the oral supplements and when spring rolls around, we'll see what to do then. |
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Location: Always on call..... | kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-21 2:09 PM
Thanks magicgunsmoke.
I will not be switching vets. I trust mine completely and won't switch just because she didn't do what you guys want. I'm trying out the oral supplements and when spring rolls around, we'll see what to do then.
Welcome to the board from another KS barrel racer :-). Glad you got some good advice and it seems like your vet has a plan for you. I agree you shouldn't switch vets and her more conservative advice is fine if you are going to pretty much take the winter off. And if you aren't comfortable with injections at this point. Sounds like you have done your research. Plus the down time this winter will help her soreness.
You can learn a lot on this board but people are also pretty opinionated. ;-). Don't take things personally. I'll keep my eye out for a cute little black mare next spring at the jackpots! |
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Location: Florida.. | kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-21 3:09 PM Thanks magicgunsmoke. I will not be switching vets. I trust mine completely and won't switch just because she didn't do what you guys want. I'm trying out the oral supplements and when spring rolls around, we'll see what to do then.
I want to clarify I didnt say to switch vets.. I gave a opinion due to past experiences as alot of us have differant opinions. you take what you want as we share experiences.. I waited on mine as well.. 6 months later and poorer from other approachs ended up injected and had a painfree horse.. you asked we gave our personal opinion.. good luck |
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Location: Kansas | Which part of Kansas are in in Dr. J? I'm in the NE. My plans for next year is to just exhibit her, maybe enter if we go to a small fun show or something. |
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Location: Kansas | I ordered Back On Track hock boots and got them today!! I haven't put them on her yet but I was wondering, how long should I keep them on her and when should I put them on her? I only ride her about 3x a week and it only takes me around 10 minutes to tack and untack, though I can definitely go to the barn earlier so she can have them on for a longer period of time before I start tacking up, and stay after longer.
I've heard people keep them on for hours. Star is on pasture 24/7 and I don't have stalls. Would 20 minutes before and after a ride, 3x a week, work? |
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| kansasbarrelracer - 2016-11-30 2:26 PM
I ordered Back On Track hock boots and got them today!! I haven't put them on her yet but I was wondering, how long should I keep them on her and when should I put them on her? I only ride her about 3x a week and it only takes me around 10 minutes to tack and untack, though I can definitely go to the barn earlier so she can have them on for a longer period of time before I start tacking up, and stay after longer.
I've heard people keep them on for hours. Star is on pasture 24/7 and I don't have stalls. Would 20 minutes before and after a ride, 3x a week, work?
That is pretty close time wise to way I use the BOT saddle pad. It definitely worked for my horse |
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