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Location: NE TX | fatchance - 2016-12-22 2:12 PM How much time did you give the horse off after he bled?
She got 60 days off, rechecked at 60 days and was as perfect as could be. Gave her another month off due to being August and being HOT in TX and my work schedule was crazy for the next month. Brought her back September and October and ran her a few times in November but wasn't seeing what I thought I would see as far as running better and not being as "****y" in the alley so took her for a recheck last week and confirmed bleeding and infection. |
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Location: Georgia | classicpotatochip - 2016-12-21 6:50 PM 5 ccs Lasix 4 hours out, a strong trot/lope program. I also started tying her tongue, which seems to have helped. I didn't have any change with supplements. When it's humid she gets a little more Lasix, and I'm very religious about after care and making sure she gets enough electrolytes after to ensure she drinks. I also soak the hay, just anything I can think of to get fluids back into her. Ran diagnostics on flappers, one was paralyzed and required surgery.
What is tying their tongue? I have never heard of this |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | mandita8907 - 2016-12-22 3:38 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-12-21 6:50 PM 5 ccs Lasix 4 hours out, a strong trot/lope program. I also started tying her tongue, which seems to have helped. I didn't have any change with supplements. When it's humid she gets a little more Lasix, and I'm very religious about after care and making sure she gets enough electrolytes after to ensure she drinks. I also soak the hay, just anything I can think of to get fluids back into her. Ran diagnostics on flappers, one was paralyzed and required surgery.
What is tying their tongue? I have never heard of this
Just what it says. Most Tb's get their tongues tied. Hpeople keep their airway open. You reach in the side of their moutb, grab the tongue, pull it forward and wrap a knee hi panty hose around it and tie it under their bottom lip. |
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Location: Washington | Flamin10 - 2016-12-22 1:31 PM fatchance - 2016-12-22 2:12 PM How much time did you give the horse off after he bled? She got 60 days off, rechecked at 60 days and was as perfect as could be. Gave her another month off due to being August and being HOT in TX and my work schedule was crazy for the next month. Brought her back September and October and ran her a few times in November but wasn't seeing what I thought I would see as far as running better and not being as "****y" in the alley so took her for a recheck last week and confirmed bleeding and infection.
Might be time for her to raise a foal. Your doing it by the book as far as time off, except I gave my guy 90 days off. Ran him on 5cc lasix's for a month and then completely off of it. He was the type of horse after that I never gave down time to. He was rode hard during the week and weekends. |
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Location: TEXAS | total performance - 2016-12-22 5:05 PM
mandita8907 - 2016-12-22 3:38 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-12-21 6:50 PM 5 ccs Lasix 4 hours out, a strong trot/lope program. I also started tying her tongue, which seems to have helped. I didn't have any change with supplements. When it's humid she gets a little more Lasix, and I'm very religious about after care and making sure she gets enough electrolytes after to ensure she drinks. I also soak the hay, just anything I can think of to get fluids back into her. Ran diagnostics on flappers, one was paralyzed and required surgery.
What is tying their tongue? I have never heard of this
Just what it says. Most Tb's get their tongues tied. Hpeople keep their airway open. You reach in the side of their moutb, grab the tongue, pull it forward and wrap a knee hi panty hose around it and tie it under their bottom lip.
Being from the track world - tongue tying doesn't necessarily have anything to do with bleeders - a lot of trainers tie all their racing horses ...
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | turn3turnsok - 2016-12-23 7:45 AM total performance - 2016-12-22 5:05 PM mandita8907 - 2016-12-22 3:38 PM classicpotatochip - 2016-12-21 6:50 PM 5 ccs Lasix 4 hours out, a strong trot/lope program. I also started tying her tongue, which seems to have helped. I didn't have any change with supplements. When it's humid she gets a little more Lasix, and I'm very religious about after care and making sure she gets enough electrolytes after to ensure she drinks. I also soak the hay, just anything I can think of to get fluids back into her. Ran diagnostics on flappers, one was paralyzed and required surgery. What is tying their tongue? I have never heard of this Just what it says. Most Tb's get their tongues tied. Hpeople keep their airway open. You reach in the side of their moutb, grab the tongue, pull it forward and wrap a knee hi panty hose around it and tie it under their bottom lip. Being from the track world - tongue tying doesn't necessarily have anything to do with bleeders - a lot of trainers tie all their racing horses ...
This is true. I believe it has more to do with breathing than bleeding. |
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Location: MS | I have one that doesn't tolerate more than 3 of lasix. You may as well not run him.
He's getting a year off. Then he'll probably have a new job. Just not worth it.
We've been to so many vets and universities. He's had throat surgery and a total pulmonary workup.
I've spent a fortune trying so many supplements.
He has scar tissue in his lungs from where he's bled.
He's just a bleeder. No idea what causes it. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Curious, anyone using Equipulmin with a bleeder with success? Were you able to stop lasix or use them together? |
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Location: Greencastle PA | I have a bleeder also, I run him on Lasix 2cc 2 hours out and flair strips all the time. Took him to the vet was going to stop it all but vet said once a bleeder always going to be one, so I just keep him on and all seems to work. He has'nt bleed in 2 years. Good luck
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Location: OK | I read alot of vet studies and different vet opinions when my horse started bleeding and this is something most don't consider.
A higher fat diet with the right fats and Horseshoer's Secret helped us. The reason is that the tissue was made healthier and therefore more elastic, which kept those blood vessels from bursting so easy. I did that and ran him on 3 cc and he never bled. He was in great shape. I rode hours a day away from the pattern. He's old now and lasted 8 years like that.
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