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| I currently feed my horse renew gold. I'd say she has a normal/ moderate work load. I currently feed 1.5 lbs of rg AM and PM along with 5lbs of alfalfa pellets 2x day with free choice decent quality hay. She just doesn't seem to look all that great, not skinny but not what she should look like. I have only ever tried Tribute kalm ultra which made her seem very on edge and ulcery which is why I went to rg. Teeth, worming etc are all up to date and are not the issue. I can't keep forking out the $ for a feed that just isn't making her look all that great. Looking for other options or advice please! |
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| I would say time for a change. I feed a local 14% pellet 4 pounds twice a day and Platinum Performance with a little salt. Plenty of top quality hay. I just think the horse is not getting enough to eat. All of mine get the same feed. |
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Location: West Texas | paturninburnin89 - 2016-12-19 1:05 PM
I currently feed my horse renew gold. I'd say she has a normal/ moderate work load. I currently feed 1.5 lbs of rg AM and PM along with 5lbs of alfalfa pellets 2x day with free choice decent quality hay. She just doesn't seem to look all that great, not skinny but not what she should look like. I have only ever tried Tribute kalm ultra which made her seem very on edge and ulcery which is why I went to rg. Teeth, worming etc are all up to date and are not the issue. I can't keep forking out the $ for a feed that just isn't making her look all that great. Looking for other options or advice please!
So you are feeding 3lbs of RG and 10lbs of alfalfa pellets along with free choice hay (probably about 15lbs)? Is that correct? |
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| Yes that is correct. I feel like I am giving more than enough for a horse who isn't even competing but am not seeing results I feel like I should be. I love that rg seems to do well with her sensitive stomach but there has got to be a better solution. |
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Location: Heart of Texas | It sounds like you need to get a vet check. That should be plenty of feed to keep her or any horse looking good. You could try to power pac her first and see if that helps but I would have a vet look at her. |
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| I have found that horses either do really good on RG or they don't. I have seen horses look amazing on it. But all 3 of mine did just the same as yours on it. They just did not thrive on it. My horses are all up to date on worming and teeth as well. Just did not work for mine. But it is an awesome product!! My horses are doing tremendous on an all natural diet. |
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Location: Georgia | paturninburnin89 - 2016-12-19 2:50 PM Yes that is correct. I feel like I am giving more than enough for a horse who isn't even competing but am not seeing results I feel like I should be. I love that rg seems to do well with her sensitive stomach but there has got to be a better solution.
Im feeding a fraction of what your feeding only once a day and my horse is fat as can be with no grass in our pasture. I feed RG too |
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Location: Willows, CA | Call me and I will go over your program with you. Your horse is eating plenty to bloom properly. We can usually identify what is going on.
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Location: West Texas | I agree that if there is a problem, looking to change out renew gold for something else will not give you any different results. It seems there is probably another factor that needs looking for. If the issue is feed related, let me put this prospective to it. As a general rule, I like to look at a feed program's effectiveness from a most fed to least fed. However, most people seem to want to do the opposite and I think that leads to a lot of misinformation and disappointment. This horse's diet consist of:
53.6% grass hay
35.7% alfalfa pellet
10.7% renew gold
So my question would be, if 89% of your horse's diet are made up of feeds that are not renew gold, maybe those are the places to start looking at changing things up? Maybe renew gold isn't working for you, but it seems much more likely that it may be something else at play here, especially since your horse is getting around 25-30lbs of feed/day. I would start with the grass hay. If it is feed related, I am guessing this horse isn't getting much out of it.
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I would recommend feeding alfalfa hay, not pellets. Some horses react to the solution(s) they use to hold the pellets together. The hay is fresher, better and stays in the system longer since it has to be digested (where pellets are "dust").
As far as feed, none of mine do well on just Renew Gold. I do love and continue to feed the Renew Gold, but also add 2-3 cups of Seminole Wellness Perform Safe (a beet pulp-based complete feed) to most of the horses' rations. I feed alfalfa, timothy and coastal hays.
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Mine did ok on the same program but when I changed to HayRite alfalfa cubes they all bloomed. Cut my RG to only a pound a day. |
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Location: Willows, CA | mreklaw - 2016-12-19 6:22 PM
Mine did ok on the same program but when I changed to HayRite alfalfa cubes they all bloomed. Cut my RG to only a pound a day.
This change is a function of both higher digestibility of some alfalfa in the diet and, more importantly, a point that I have made in the past about slightly slowing the hind gut to allow the benefit of increased digestive efficiency created by the Renew Gold program to be better realized. Grass hay can be better used as the base of the diet if you can slow its transit time through the hind gut so that it can be better broken down. Some alfalfa will do that. I would rather add that than additional grain based concentrates. |
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Location: Phoenix | Runaway - 2016-12-19 1:40 PM
I would recommend feeding alfalfa hay, not pellets. Some horses react to the solution(s) they use to hold the pellets together. The hay is fresher, better and stays in the system longer since it has to be digested (where pellets are "dust").
As far as feed, none of mine do well on just Renew Gold. I do love and continue to feed the Renew Gold, but also add 2-3 cups of Seminole Wellness Perform Safe (a beet pulp-based complete feed) to most of the horses' rations. I feed alfalfa, timothy and coastal hays.
I agree with hay over pellets.
Mine does great on 1 lb per day.
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Location: SW New Mexico | I'm the odd ball...
I had Brother Dave on Renew Gold and it made him a wreck..
He was jittery and even pulled the ring off my 4 Star..
I took him off everything ... started from scratch..
He looks fantastic and his mind is level on just 2 cups rolled oats ... 2x day.
( I add fastrack, biotin and a squirt of Equine Omega Gold Oil 1 x day am...)
He also gets free choice grass hay and 1-2 flakes alfalfa 2 x day..
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-12-19 2:29 PM
I have found that horses either do really good on RG or they don't. I have seen horses look amazing on it. But all 3 of mine did just the same as yours on it. They just did not thrive on it. My horses are all up to date on worming and teeth as well. Just did not work for mine. But it is an awesome product!! My horses are doing tremendous on an all natural diet.
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This! I was feeding 6 horses RG. Mares did well, 3 of 4 geldings did ok and the other looked like crap. Switched back to rice bran and Purina Enrich kept alfalfa same and they all look fantastic and it's less expensive. |
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| I feed renew gold alfalfa grass mix and horsepower herbs mine looks really good. |
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