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smcmil
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2016-12-21 5:58 PM
Subject: Kissing spine: (ISLD surgery) who has had this done?



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I had this done on my mare about 6 weeks ago. We are on week 2 of lunging. My question is, my mare still cringes when I run my hand down her back... is this normal? What are other people's experience s post op? Thanks
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-12-21 6:33 PM
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had it done succesfully on one and not so successful on another.


I do however find it difficult to believe a case of KS was so severe that running your hand down their back caused pain.


 
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okhorselover
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2016-12-21 7:01 PM
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I have never had it done, but may-be look into a good acupuncturist, massage therapist or chiro. Each can only help your horse

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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-12-21 7:09 PM
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okhorselover - 2016-12-21 8:01 PM

I have never had it done, but may-be look into a good acupuncturist, massage therapist or chiro. Each can only help your horse


yeah that won't do anything


except cost you money.


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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-12-21 7:14 PM
Subject: RE: Kissing spine: (ISLD surgery) who has had this done?



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I had one done that Dr Honnas said was the number three worst back he'd operated on at that point. The pain was gone before the sutures were out.

I'm not sure about taking one back to work only thirty days post op- especially circles etc. Mine was still in a stall at that point, then I kicked kicked out for a year to just be a horse and excercise naturally. He came back nicely.

If I was in a hurry, I think aquatread is probably the way to go for rehab.

If you're having issues, better get ahold of the surgeon and get them to get their hands back on the horse and see if they can help.
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chicks2
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2016-12-21 8:22 PM
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smcmil - 2016-12-21 5:58 PM

I had this done on my mare about 6 weeks ago. We are on week 2 of lunging. My question is, my mare still cringes when I run my hand down her back... is this normal? What are other people's experience s post op? Thanks

Wow, not sure the exact KS procedure you had done, but I had Honnas in Bryan TX do KS surgery on my gelding last year. He was in a stall hand walking for 2 to 4 weeks. Little bit larger turn out for 60 days. Then pasture turn out for another 2 months. If you're lunging after 4 weeks, yowza, seems like too much too soon. Where did you have your procedure done?
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livinonlove&horses
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2016-12-21 10:42 PM
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I'm guessing the procedure you had done is what is r ferried tonas the "lig snip"?

I have a mare that has KS. Diagnosed with X-rays. 4 process involved. Not the worst case but not the prettiest. My mare was very sore before diagnosis and even after a round of injections she was very sore. Didn't like me running my hand down her back. We decided that most of her soreness came from her actual muscles being sore along each side of her spine where she was tightening them to "protect" her back. We did people muscle relaxers and massage with a tennis ball twice a day for 2 weeks. She finally relaxed her back and that along with injections she is rideable and pain free. I have not had surgery done.

Another thing I will probably do to help her muscles is injections along her bladder meridian once I start riding again after winter. Chiro is almost a must despite what "others" here say. Now I am fortunate that my chiro is a vet that studied at Cornell. She is top notch. I have consulted both with dr honnas and dr Hague and both agree we don't need surgery

Edited to add stay away from circles for now. Straightness training. Go over poles. Strengthen core first. There is a great FB page for support. Message me if you want

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livinonlove&horses
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2016-12-21 10:46 PM
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1DSoon - 2016-12-21 6:33 PM

had it done succesfully on one and not so successful on another.


I do however find it difficult to believe a case of KS was so severe that running your hand down their back caused pain.


 

Your second sentence has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on here in regards to KS. If they don't have pain why operate? And since it involves their spine why wouldn't it hurt there?
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snoopy
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-12-22 9:04 AM
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I had the surgery done on my horse last March, and yes, he wanted to bite me if I even brought a brush near him. It IS that painful. Please don't use a chiro or massage therapist until you get the go ahead from your vet, things have not settled down completely yet. Yes I do think it is normal for her to cringe some, remember, they have dealt with pain a long time and that is what they remember doing every time you touched her back. My horse was a level 4 out of 5 in 6 different spots. The best thing you can do,(and I did a lot of it) is incorporate a circingle into your training. It helps their headset by keeping it lower and building up the topline which mine had none of. These horse start manifesting pain in other areas because they are over compensating for the pain that is in their back. In sense, they are a hot mess! Slow, slow, slow
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smcmil
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2016-12-22 4:58 PM
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So just to clear this up I'm doing exactly what my vet said to do I had her in a stall for 30 days and now I am lunging her with the surcingle with her headset for 30 more days working up to 40 minutes total.this was the ligament snip surgery... The rehab is a lot quicker than the bone shaving
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snoopy
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2016-12-29 1:53 PM
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Just checking in, How is your horse doing?
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-12-29 2:05 PM
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livinonlove&horses - 2016-12-21 10:46 PM

1DSoon - 2016-12-21 6:33 PM

had it done succesfully on one and not so successful on another.


I do however find it difficult to believe a case of KS was so severe that running your hand down their back caused pain.


 

Your second sentence has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on here in regards to KS. If they don't have pain why operate? And since it involves their spine why wouldn't it hurt there?

I have a horse with kissing spines. He flinches if you touch his back. If the vet pushed with a little pressure he would go to the ground. Injecting him seemed to help and he never had surgery. He is retired now and seems quite happy.
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