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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-01-12 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Gas vs Diesel


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2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually).

Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2017-01-12 3:52 PM
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OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.

I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck. This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4 
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4roads
Reg. Apr 2016
Posted 2017-01-12 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Gas vs Diesel





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Get a gasser.

My first truck was a 2001 Chevy 2500hd w a 6.0. Bought it with 90,000 miles sold it with 290,000 miles on it.

Bought a diesel last year but it just sat more than I used it. Sold it like a week ago LOL It's three times more expensive fixing a diesel than a gas truck, but if your dad is a diesel mechanic I'm sure that will help LOL

But in my honest opinion, unless you're planning on hauling every weekend... Stick with a gas

Especially a daily driver. Sure diesel will last longer but the maintenance cost to fix will be more. Also the fuel tank on the truck your looking at is very small, that would drive me nuts!

Just make sure you really fall in love with a truck and don't rush buying on! Something will pop up just take your time! :) good luck!!!
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Racer4eva
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2017-01-12 6:02 PM
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I had a 05 chevy 2500 6.0 gas truck. It drank fuel like it as going out of style lol.. it had no issue pulling my 2 horse fully loaded. Except the o2 sensor was going. I traded it for a 3500 diesel and wont go back. Both were/are my daily drivers
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-01-12 6:18 PM
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Did anyone else see on the news today about Dodge Ram diesels cheating on emissions tests like VWs?  What is going on with? 
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2017-01-13 7:45 AM
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I don't haul every weekend. My mare isn't finished so, we are just piddling around here at the house. And, Memphis isn't quite ready to ride like that, by himself. This truck will be my daily driver but, it will haul things quite a bit. My Dad does mechanic work, so, sometimes I have to haul a car trailer loaded. I really am leaning towards a gas. 
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-01-13 8:17 AM
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:52 PM

OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.

I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck.Β This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4Β 

Gotcha - for some reason I saw 2006 and read 2008...
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2017-01-13 8:18 AM
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OhMax - 2017-01-13 8:17 AM
TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 3:52 PM
OhMax - 2017-01-12 3:50 PM 2008 was a redesign year on chevy 2500's (I think the whole line actually). Research research research. The first year after a redesign can be notorious for issues that they correct in later years. Could be why it's on the cheaper side too.
I am definitely going to look for all the flaws and mechanical issues on this truck. This is a 2006 Chevrolet 2500HD 6.0L V8 4x4 
Gotcha - for some reason I saw 2006 and read 2008...

 Oh no, it's fine. I like hearing the good, the bad and the ugly.... any kind of personal experiences.
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2017-01-13 9:03 AM
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-13 7:45 AM

I don't haul every weekend. My mare isn't finished so, we are just piddling around here at the house. And, Memphis isn't quite ready to ride like that, by himself. This truck will be my daily driver but, it will haul things quite a bit. My Dad does mechanic work, so, sometimes I have to haul a car trailer loaded. I really am leaning towards a gas.Β 

I think you'd be happier with a gas if you're going to use it as your daily driving pickup and for what else you said.
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2017-01-13 9:10 AM
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Get your dad to put an additional gas tank in the bed. They're more expensive than the auxiliary diesel tanks, you have to get one designed to carry gasoline. But, you are going to want one after driving it from one gas station to the next for a couple of months. It gets old fast. I looked for a larger replacement tank and couldn't find one that would replace the factory tank.
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2017-01-13 9:10 AM
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I live in AL also. Have had both gas and diesel for pulling horses. Will never buy another gas burner again. 2005 2500 Chevy 4x4 gas burner really struggles to maintain speed on the interstate pulling a 3-horse bumper pull when we have any kind of an incline. It's pathetic really.

Great for a daily driver, has been a great truck as far as no mechanical problems, etc. But the power is just not there.

Edited by BamaCanChaser 2017-01-13 9:12 AM
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blueskies
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-01-13 11:47 AM
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If you are going to get a smaller trailer 2 horse or 3 horse I'd go with the gas. I had a 2 horse slant and I pulled that over all with my little gas truck. Got decent mileage and it was awesome. If you don't absolutely need the 3 horse go with a 2 horse. Your wallet will thank you and its so much easier to park, get gas etc. I've thought about buying a little 2 horse bumperpull when I just run around.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2017-01-13 12:30 PM
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A friend of mine has a truck similar to what you are describing. I hauled with it quite a few times, 1-3 horses with a standard gooseneck and had MORE than enough power. To the point where I caught myself going to fast because it pulled so smoothly. My friend hauls 4-5 horses in a stock trailer with it often. It has been from MN to NC, through the mountains without issues. She still has it but I bet it has a lot of miles. I know they have had to make repairs but for as heavy as they used it, I think it has held up pretty good.

We got a 2012 GMC and it was an oil hog, engine trouble right out of the gate. We sold it and now have a 2012 Chev Silverado. I pull 2-3 horses with it pretty easily. Not the most power in the world but nothing that concerns me. Again, I don't do long trecks typically but I did haul from MN to OK and back a couple times without issues.

I personally think Diesel's are nice but their upkeep his horrendous and they are inconvenient for those of us who live in the north. My thing is, I buy what I need.

I get good mpg and am happy with its power.
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2017-01-13 11:03 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2017-01-13 9:10 AM

I live in AL also. Have had both gas and diesel for pulling horses. Will never buy another gas burner again. 2005 2500 Chevy 4x4 gas burner really struggles to maintain speed on the interstate pulling a 3-horse bumper pull when we have any kind of an incline. It's pathetic really.

Great for a daily driver, has been a great truck as far as no mechanical problems, etc. But the power is just not there.

I think there's a pretty big difference between a 2500 and 2500HD.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-01-14 12:08 AM
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL - 2017-01-12 9:56 AM

Nita - 2017-01-12 9:53 AM The check engine light stayed on in mine. It was a problem with some component of the o2 sensors. If I'm remembering right, it was the little heater that is on the sensors that goes bad and you could only replace the whole thing. I live in a warm climate and the mechanic told me I would probably never notice, so I never bothered to fix that. It's a common problem, from what I understood, and something you might have to deal with in a cold climate. Mechanic liked that engine, though. Said they were tough.

My Dad is a diesel mechanic, but, works on everything. He told me that it's a nice truck... low mileage, as well. And, for the price, I should snatch it up. It's an '06, 4x4 with a lot of extras and loaded with only 80k miles on it.... they want $12,000 for it. Β It has a clean Carfax and only one owner. Looks like it has been meticulously been maintained.

Simple comparison ..

Gas engines
The torque and horse power are rated when engine is running over
4000-5000 rpm ... which means at hiway and town speeds it does
not have the takeoff nor the muscle to maintain speed ..

Torque is muscle that keeps truck running at speed even on an incline ..
Horse Power is the kick//takeoff that gets you to speed ..

So .. don't jump out in front of anything thinking you are going to get
to speed quickly and on an incline get used to making a run at the hill
10mph faster in order to be doing 50mph at the top ..
typically will run close to 3000rpm with a red line of 5700 rpm
so you are not using the best half of your gas engine ..

4x4 is your worst gas guzzler, least pulling power and will carry less
loaded weight ... they sit high off the ground and the wind pressure
means less mpg and to have the 4x4 the rear end is around 355 which is
not as strong as the 373 in a 2 wheel drive ...

The above is true in a diesel too ..

Diesel engine ... cummin's preferred ... the torque is at a low rpm
which gives more pulling power and will maintain speed at hiway
speeds .... 3000 rpm red line and 70mph on a 4x4 around 2200 rpm
horse power is more efficient due to the torque to get you to speed ..
still .. no speed contests when getting on a hiway .. you will lose ..

You gas unit is probably an automatic ... if it has the pulling something
button which uses the gear under over drive when pulling ...
USE IT WHEN PULLING OR YOU WILL BE BUYING A NEW TRANSMISSION

TRUST DAD'S ADVICE AND GO BUY THE TRUCK ... OFFER THEM 11K FOR IT
FOR NEW BRAKES, HOSES, BELTS AND GENERAL MAINTANCE ITEMS ...
MIGHT EVEN NEED NEW PLUGS AND WIRES VERY SHORTLY ...
OR PAY THE 12K and be happy .... since Dad can help on any repairs ..

A one owner clean truck is tuff to find .... with 8k/year on it ...

the newer the used truck is ... means someone is getting rid of a problem ..

Get Dad to take a quick eyeball and ear test on the truck and
make sure brake box is stiff enuff to feel the trailer brakes right
before you feel your truck brakes .. your Dad will know what I
am talking about ... lol ........ and everything will work out !!

GOOD LUCK ... SHOW US A PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR NEW TRUCK

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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2017-01-15 3:58 AM
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Well?? Post pics of your new truck, if you decided to get it!
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TURNNBURNCOWGIRL
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2017-01-15 8:25 AM
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Nita - 2017-01-15 3:58 AM Well?? Post pics of your new truck, if you decided to get it!

 Haven't decided on it yet! Going to go next week and really look at it, because well... I am a little OCD, so I am taking my Dad and my husband.
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2017-01-15 10:28 AM
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Vickie - 2017-01-12 6:18 PM

Did anyone else see on the news today about Dodge Ram diesels cheating on emissions tests like VWs? Β What is going on with?Β 

I knew this was coming! It's just the 1500 eco diesel. I just turned in my vw tdi last Monday. I had looked at the rams and wondered if they would be next. Its a bunch of crap....why can semis and heavy duty trucks emit the pollutions, but not a vehicle that gets better fuel mileage? My diesel could go over 200 more miles than the gas model. I'm sure they will disappear off the market and will go to court. Interesting and scary to see how this will affect a company that makes heavy duty trucks.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2017-01-15 10:43 AM
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TheDutchMan01 - 2017-01-15 11:28 AM
Vickie - 2017-01-12 6:18 PM Did anyone else see on the news today about Dodge Ram diesels cheating on emissions tests like VWs? Β What is going on with?Β 
I knew this was coming! It's just the 1500 eco diesel. I just turned in my vw tdi last Monday. I had looked at the rams and wondered if they would be next. Its a bunch of crap....why can semis and heavy duty trucks emit the pollutions, but not a vehicle that gets better fuel mileage? My diesel could go over 200 more miles than the gas model. I'm sure they will disappear off the market and will go to court. Interesting and scary to see how this will affect a company that makes heavy duty trucks.

no it wasn't

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The claims involving Dodge Ram pickups from 2007 through 2012 predate the first known sales of emissions-cheating vehicles by Volkswagen in 2009.


this predates the Eco
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