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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-01-13 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: Hard luck horses: UPDATE


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lopnaround - 2017-01-13 10:45 AM  Y'all- I just got off the phone with the woman that runs the hair analysis.  I've worked for a big orthopedic/lameness vet here in North Texas and when I first heard about hair analyis I thought it was quackery.  Took me a YEAR to finally sent hair in (after my friend repeatedly told me about her).  Anyways- without any info from me she found:

-Slow thyroid (Which I had suspected since she has turned into an easy keeper post foaling, but vet dismissed yesterday because she was so slick and shiny) 

-Poor performing gut/hindgut/small intestine

-Weak coffin joins/soft tissue in lower limb, worse RF (she is more lame RF)

-Weak hocks



I finally feel like we are getting somewhere!!  

Needless to say, I no longer consider hair analysis to be BS!   If you want her info PM me:)


 
She told you the horses RF was worse based off of hair sample anaylsis or did I read that wrong?

 Yes, she asked me if she was more lame on her RF based off of what her analysis was showing.    The mare IS more sore on her RF and her xrays yesterday showed a slight chip in her RF coffin bone.   I about dropped my phone!!!

Ok, how in the world would a hair sample determine that? I'm going to have to do a little research, as I thought hair analysis just showed vit/mineral deficiencies. Not knocking your experience, but that sounds like some voodoo sh!t lol :)

I completely agree- that's what kept me from doing it for forever!! I need to research myself- all I know is that she called it EXACTLY right on per xrays/clinical signs and confirmed my suspicion of thyroid issues.
She said she gets called a psychic all the time...I am dumbfounded by this lol
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nvgal
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-01-13 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Hard luck horses


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I had a gelding I raised, he contracted- so surgery on check lig. then colic surgery then popped a splint then hind susp tear then hocks fusing I got 6 months here and there and he was that once in a life time horse but I couldnt keep him sound - there is hope! He just loves his job, loves to go, is a show off for attention so when he was 10 years old-
I let a 8 year old run him she had him for 4 years stayed sound enough to get her to the next level now another little girl has him. So just because it didn't work for me to run him I'm so proud and happy he has his little girls and its more happiness when they win a buckle than if I did on him. Its just meant to be but not as I had planned :)

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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2017-01-13 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: Hard luck horses



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I've quit talking about HHA pretty much because of the negative replies I have gotten on here, but that doesn't mean I've quit having done. Almost a year before we found the abscess in Tucker's right front foot and about 2 weeks before he ever came up sore the first time his HHA came back with a note about his Right Front. I dismissed it even after he came up sore, then again 6 months later when he came up lame in it. When the vet found the abscess his first words were "THAT sucker has been there a long long long time, more than a year I'd guess."
I do not use it instead of vet work, I use it as another element of it WHEN the vet work doesn't seem to be getting to the bottom of the problem by itself.


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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-01-13 4:09 PM
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run n rate - 2017-01-13 3:40 PM I've quit talking about HHA pretty much because of the negative replies I have gotten on here, but that doesn't mean I've quit having done. Almost a year before we found the abscess in Tucker's right front foot and about 2 weeks before he ever came up sore the first time his HHA came back with a note about his Right Front. I dismissed it even after he came up sore, then again 6 months later when he came up lame in it. When the vet found the abscess his first words were "THAT sucker has been there a long long long time, more than a year I'd guess." I do not use it instead of vet work, I use it as another element of it WHEN the vet work doesn't seem to be getting to the bottom of the problem by itself.

Run n rate- I totally agree with  you.  Definitely not a substitute- but I am sure impressed with it as an additional diagnostic tool!!  That's pretty cool story about your gelding- I am a believer lol
I understand the negative responses too- I felt the same way.  I decided for 25 bucks what the heck would it hurt?  And BOOM. Converted!.

 
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lopnaround
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2017-01-13 4:10 PM
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nvgal - 2017-01-13 3:01 PM I had a gelding I raised, he contracted- so surgery on check lig. then colic surgery then popped a splint then hind susp tear then hocks fusing I got 6 months here and there and he was that once in a life time horse but I couldnt keep him sound - there is hope! He just loves his job, loves to go, is a show off for attention so when he was 10 years old- I let a 8 year old run him she had him for 4 years stayed sound enough to get her to the next level now another little girl has him. So just because it didn't work for me to run him I'm so proud and happy he has his little girls and its more happiness when they win a buckle than if I did on him. Its just meant to be but not as I had planned :)

This is true- it is rewarding to see your horse go on with someone else- especially when it's horse crazy little girls! 
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-01-13 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: Hard luck horses



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run n rate - 2017-01-12 11:09 AM

CC.
Super talented, super smart, big time fight or flight instinct, bi-polar, ADHD mare.
Fractured Patella 2011, mountain lion attack 2012, bladder and kidney stones diagnosis 2014, bladder stone removal surgery Nov. 2014, maybe looking at a hind suspensory issue 2017....
She has made me question God, she has brought me closer to God, she has made me question my sanity, my ability, what the H E double L I'm doing at 51 wading out to feed in the dark and rain and going paycheck to 4 days before paycheck at a job I hate to feed, shoe and put pennies together to try to enter 2-3 times a year if I get the guts up to go even though I spend the time doing my riding homework. But then all it takes is a nibble from her on my pocket, a nuzzle as rain or sweat or hay drips down your neck into your shirt and that eye of hers that says "Thank you" or "Lets do this" or "I'm not ready to quit yet, how bout you???" and I'm renewed again.
Every horse is different and I truly believe there is not one feed/supplement/nutrition program that fulfills all of them. We need to find what that particular horse needs, CC I have to be very careful of Calcium/phosphorus ratio on, another mare doesn't absorb Vit. E as readily so she has to have it supplimented, and my gelding is prone to thrush.
On your horse I'd suggest a talk with Dr. Shell with Cur-ost and do some investigating about maybe what she may need more support on nutritionally. Good luck!

I'll say it again RNR----I LOVE how you love her

To the OP and others with issues---bless your hearts and hope it gets better quickly. Sean's big Paint has stress fracture and suspensory soreness. Three to six months confinement and then we'll know more. I've never dealt with anything like this so I'm just out of my element. We're not set up for "confinement" and just have nothing but mud and muck right now. I'm thankful the bone chilling cold is gone for now tho. Makes me sick for Sonny to be going thru this--he's just a big sweetheart of a horse.

Edited by Chandler's Mom 2017-01-13 11:48 PM
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Buckles
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2017-01-14 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: Hard luck horses


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In the last 2 years my horse has had 4 sarcoids treated which I am still dealing with, treated for lyme disease twice, developed cataracts, injured his SI, found out he has pssm type 2, and stomach ulcers is the newest thing.
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2017-01-15 4:32 PM
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My horses have been that light at the end of the tunnel for me, there are moments they've also been the train it's attached to but still!!! Lol;-)
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