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Neros Winning Chick
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2017-03-22 8:30 PM
Subject: Tying Hard vs Not??



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Just wondering...how many of you always tie your horses hard and how many do not? What are your experiences. This was a debate I had the other day.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-03-22 9:25 PM
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What do you mean " tie them hard"?   Tied to a trailer? 

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Neros Winning Chick
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2017-03-22 9:43 PM
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To tie them solid to any object...trailer, stall, hitching rail etc.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-03-22 10:03 PM
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I will tie mine hard/solid so they cant go no where, but I tie to solid objects like to my trailer are a fence thats solid and I tie with slip knots so if something happens I can get them untied quicky, here at my house I have ropes hanging in my trees so they are safely tied off.  
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2017-03-22 10:12 PM
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 I always use a Blocker tie ring.  I have them everywhere.
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BarrelRacing4Christ
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2017-03-22 10:38 PM
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Maybe I'm just weird but I feel it's unsafe to tie a horse to something that's not solid...? Mine are always tied with a slip knot to an appropriate solid object.
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livexlovexrodeo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2017-03-23 12:11 AM
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I tie my horses to the cross-ties, trailer, and fence posts all the time. I just use a slip-knot.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2017-03-23 5:47 AM
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I tie hard the ones who don't pull back and I use blocker tie rings with the ones who pull back - and hopefully I know the difference on who is who!

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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-03-23 7:02 AM
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BarrelRacing4Christ - 2017-03-22 10:38 PM Maybe I'm just weird but I feel it's unsafe to tie a horse to something that's not solid...? Mine are always tied with a slip knot to an appropriate solid object.

This ^^
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2017-03-23 7:39 AM
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Fun2Run - 2017-03-22 8:12 PM

Β I always use a Blocker tie ring.Β  I have them everywhere.

Me too.
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Tilt The Kilt
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2017-03-23 7:49 AM
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No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer.   We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer.  Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-03-23 8:04 AM
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Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 7:49 AM No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer.   We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer.  Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.

 That is awful!
Opinions on using this for one that unites himself, anyone around him, chews, just generally has to entertain himself doing whatever he can?   I watched a video of the blocker tie and I know in a heartbeat he would pull the slack as far as he could, my concern is he would have always have too much and get tangled with the other horses tied to the trailer.   Right now I use a quick release bungee tie for him. 
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Tilt The Kilt
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2017-03-23 8:12 AM
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rodeomom3 - 2017-03-23 8:04 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 7:49 AM No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer.   We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer.  Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.
 That is awful!

Opinions on using this for one that unites himself, anyone around him, chews, just generally has to entertain himself doing whatever he can?   I watched a video of the blocker tie and I know in a heartbeat he would pull the slack as far as he could, my concern is he would have always have too much and get tangled with the other horses tied to the trailer.   Right now I use a quick release bungee tie for him. 

For those we aren't generally worried about or I know who'd stand anyway but they know how to go on walkabout, you just keep flipping the excess of the lead over itself, close to where the lead meets the ring. The more wraps you take the harder the tie.  They can't just back out of that, it squeezes down on itself and slows down the feed of the lead through the ring to the point of feeling hard tied.  You'd have to try it at home and see if he'd dink with it after you've wrapped it a few times.  

The quick release is fine too, I've used them, that's what we've used before the Blocker's came along. I have had those gets stuck though when too much opposite pressure is applied from the horse, and on some horses who I didn't want to get near flailing hooves and bodies to reach up and undo it.   
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2017-03-23 8:18 AM
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Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 9:12 AM
rodeomom3 - 2017-03-23 8:04 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 7:49 AM No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer.   We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer.  Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.
 That is awful!

Opinions on using this for one that unites himself, anyone around him, chews, just generally has to entertain himself doing whatever he can?   I watched a video of the blocker tie and I know in a heartbeat he would pull the slack as far as he could, my concern is he would have always have too much and get tangled with the other horses tied to the trailer.   Right now I use a quick release bungee tie for him. 
For those we aren't generally worried about or I know who'd stand anyway but they know how to go on walkabout, you just keep flipping the excess of the lead over itself, close to where the lead meets the ring. The more wraps you take the harder the tie.  They can't just back out of that, it squeezes down on itself and slows down the feed of the lead through the ring to the point of feeling hard tied.  You'd have to try it at home and see if he'd dink with it after you've wrapped it a few times.  



The quick release is fine too, I've used them, that's what we've used before the Blocker's came along. I have had those gets stuck though when too much opposite pressure is applied from the horse, and on some horses who I didn't want to get near flailing hooves and bodies to reach up and undo it.   

This ^^^ .  Just play with it on certain horses to see how far they will "test"it.  I use them on everything.  Especially after seeing/hearing so many people that their horses have problems later caused by throwing themselves back.   
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2017-03-23 8:51 AM
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rodeomom3 - 2017-03-23 6:04 AM

Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 7:49 AM No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer. Β  We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer. Β Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.

Β That is awful!
Opinions on using this for one that unites himself, anyone around him, chews, just generally has to entertain himself doing whatever he can? Β  I watched a video of the blocker tie and I know in a heartbeat he would pull the slack as far as he could, my concern is he would have always have too much and get tangled with the other horses tied to the trailer. Β  Right now I use a quick release bungee tie for him.Β 

I have one horse that can untie himself from any knot, literally. He can untie himself from the Blocker ring but I also have the Clip (same concept, different design) that Julie Goodnight endorses. He cannot get himself out of that. I will also use a long leadrope with it if we are at a race and I might be away from the trailer for some time.
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2017-03-23 6:12 PM
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Griz - 2017-03-23 5:47 AM I tie hard the ones who don't pull back and I use blocker tie rings with the ones who pull back - and hopefully I know the difference on who is who!

Ditto 
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WiscoRacer
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2017-03-23 11:16 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2017-03-23 8:04 AM

Tilt The Kilt - 2017-03-23 7:49 AM No, we use the Blocker Tie rings. We have them all over the place, including hanging on every tie ring on our trailer. Β  We've had them for years here and there, wasn't religious about them though. But last fall I had a horse spook while tied hard to the trailer and when he realized he coudn't get away and any further backwards, he lunged forward and smashed his eyeball on a tie ring of the trailer. Exploded all over the side of the trailer. Β Sure go all your life with no major issues and only count one like that, but nope, it was bad enough, so no more hard tying.

Β That is awful!
Opinions on using this for one that unites himself, anyone around him, chews, just generally has to entertain himself doing whatever he can? Β  I watched a video of the blocker tie and I know in a heartbeat he would pull the slack as far as he could, my concern is he would have always have too much and get tangled with the other horses tied to the trailer. Β  Right now I use a quick release bungee tie for him.Β 

We had the quick release bungee ties for inside our horse trailer. Except the one time we couldn't release it fast enough and the horse blew out still tied. That dang thing exploded everywhere, we were lucky the horse didn't lose an eye with how that bungee snapped.

To answer your question, they make a clip that has a screw where you loop the rope and you can adjust it to set how easy or difficult the rope pulls through. We use this on my sisters mare who figured out how to pull her rope out.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2017-03-24 10:21 AM
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I am using the blocker tie rings with my 3 YOs... it's been good and its helped curb any desire to set back!
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