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| I have a really really push style gelding and I've been finding it hard to get him past the 2nd barrel because he rates too soon. Ive done some research and some people run horses like these right past the barrel in practice to the fence and let them stand there. Have any of y'all done this? Does it work?
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Location: North Dakota | For a push style, it's very important that the rider doesn't cue the horse too soon. And if your horse won't listen to you, then take a step back and do some slow work to make your horse more responsive. Some slow work can involve pushing the horse way past the pocket ... or doing reverse arcs... or any number of drills to get your horse listening to you. |
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| r_beau - 2017-04-15 1:52 PM
For a push style, it's very important that the rider doesn't cue the horse too soon. And if your horse won't listen to you, then take a step back and do some slow work to make your horse more responsive. Some slow work can involve pushing the horse way past the pocket ... or doing reverse arcs... or any number of drills to get your horse listening to you.
That. I work a LOT on going past the barrel at a walk and trot and not cuing him at all until we are past. When we run he will anticipate, we probably do too. Slow work going well past and the anticipation will be in the right spot. Slow work to the right spot and the anticipation will be knocking the barrel.
One of the big things that has helped me has been shortening my stirrups. I was riding too long and I wasn't able to keep my balance and really push him. With shorter stirrups I can maintain balance and right him through my seat and legs. I was AMAZED at the extra power I felt like I had. |
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| I had one like that and in practice I would trot or lope him through the pattern, but instead of rating at each barrel I would speed him up and push him all the way to the fence, stop him, settle him and then come around and go onto the next one. He was very confused at first but after doing that enough, he got into the habit of getting by the barrels. |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | No matter how hard you try, you'll never run a push horse past a barrel. Here's my advice. Pick a spot outside the arena and ride to it. Never think about turning. Make a couple of two handed runs to prove that you can. Never practice him. Only walk/trot the pattern with REALLY exaggerated depth. |
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| Yes. Make him go past. Usually they will want to turn in, do not let him. Keep him straight and go past it at least 3 horse lengths or so and then stop and maybe pet. Ive ridden a finished working cowhorse some on the barrels and he litterally wants to turn over them because thats what he was expected to do working a cow. I trotted him past the barrels a few times and then loped through and he is already improving a lot.
Edited by scwebster 2017-04-17 10:01 AM
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| A horse is going to go where you are looking. Look past the barrel. Find a spot on the arena fence and make sure that your are looking there. Also, two hand the horse until your leg is even with the barrel before you drop the outside rein. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I look at a spot on the ground that I want to make sure I ride all the way up into. This has helped me so much! I tried looking at the fence but I throw myself off and then of course my horse.
Best part is they will never run past- haha! Good luck! |
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| Yes, I ride my mare in slow work about 2-3 strides past the barrel. |
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| My cow horse is the exact same way. Cutting bred and she is so ratey around the barrel and she thinks the goal is to turn OVER the barrel instead of around it. Definitely going to try running past the barrel next time and see how it works. |
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Location: Loco,Ok | Cowing the barrel. Break lock on.the barrel. Like you would on a cutter. You feel the horse lock on quit running hard all the way. Then you pump your body hands that is to many signals. Rein off to get by. Drop horse they lead into the turn with their shoulder hit it. Break the lock keeps feet moving forward. Use feet more and set still. Basically as a cutter or calf horse shutting you out. |
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Location: Texas | I have one and she can get extra tight the more I run her. I have found at home that I set up four barrels and do squares at a trot and lope keeping her shoulders up and myself square with her. Its ackward at first but once you get the hang of it you will understand its function. When I am at a barrel race I make sure I trot and lope squares because coming in to the second and third barrel I need that squared approach to keep her from turning in so tight. It also keeps me sitting later and going past a little to get by clean. Hope this helps. |
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