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Miss Southern Sunshine
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       Location: South Central Florida | First time we ever used it was for a lung infection for a bleeder we didn't know about. She was on it like 10 days, I think? That vet recommended it over lasix for bleeders. We used it when I had enough money because it is so hot here and I figured it would keep her from needing more and more lasix over time. Never had any problems, none of the problems I have heard others talk about in terms of makeing her extra nervous or heart rate super high, sweating...she just didn't bleed.
I have heard and read it will make them run faster, but we have not ever had that experience. I'm thinking that for bleeders or horses with allergies, maybe they run faster because they can breath?
I would use it again with no problem, it's just expensive. |
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| If your horse is a true bleeder, you have to have him / her scoped right after a run to see the bleeding unless it is obvious bleeding from the nose. I have a mare who did the coughing after a run & when I worked her here at home. She never bled from her nose. I was told to scope her, but wasn't told you need to scope right after a run to really see if they are bleeding. So I had her scoped a week later after she ran & she was clean. Long story short, my mare started coughing up blood clots after her run. She was a bleeder down deep in her lungs. She had ran on ventipullum & that was a disaster. That made her wired & she is a fast enough horse as it is, so she didn't need the extra crap to make her run harder. Bad stuff in my opinion. Ran her on Lasix & she was fine. # 1 thing is to have your horse scoped right after your run. If he checks out to be a bleeder, you know. JMHO, I would go with either Lasix or the mask. Don't go with ventipullum. That stuff is just nasty.
ETA --- I have read that ventipulmin is not to be used on a true bleeder. Allergies, copd, yes, but not for a bleeder
Edited by okhorselover 2017-05-05 8:09 PM
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| I know, and I feel like I'm in the guessing stage yet, is he a bleeder? Or allergies? I had a BAL done last fall..I have no way to get him on sending him to a vet after I make a weekend run to truly scope. The BAL showed mucus buildup, no drops of blood in the trachea or wherever else they look, I just don't know the terms.
Can a person be safe and give Lasix & Ventipulmin together 4 hours out or so? Or is that a big no no?
Edited by Wild1 2017-05-05 9:46 PM
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     Location: Eatonville, wa | So I just used it today. I used it a little bit last year . My horse has horrible summer heaves...aka COPD. Complete with coughing and wheezing, completely unrideable.
I don't like it . Honestly it straight makes him a lunatic, a crazed devil monster from hell.
I just got my nebulizer in today, as long as I can find something to nebulizer in it that will help him I won't use ventipulmim. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | I really like RespiFree from OmegaAlpha, works best if you give it every day. My old gelding will suck it out of the syringe but he's weird, he loves Air Power and will lick it up if it gets spilled. I also like the respiratory formula from Forefront and it is pretty reasonable. My gelding with severe COPD did not respond to the CurOst formulas (which I love) but he does great on the Forefront stuff. |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Albuterol? |
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| Barnmom - 2017-05-06 9:12 PM
I really like RespiFree from OmegaAlpha, works best if you give it every day. My old gelding will suck it out of the syringe but he's weird, he loves Air Power and will lick it up if it gets spilled. I also like the respiratory formula from Forefront and it is pretty reasonable. My gelding with severe COPD did not respond to the CurOst formulas (which I love) but he does great on the Forefront stuff.
I just looked up Omega Alpha products but there are 3 different ones that look interesting to try! I also wonder about equipulmin too. I feel going with a liquid herb supplement would be better, I hate the trial and error process though uggg |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Wild1 - 2017-05-07 9:05 PM Barnmom - 2017-05-06 9:12 PM I really like RespiFree from OmegaAlpha, works best if you give it every day. My old gelding will suck it out of the syringe but he's weird, he loves Air Power and will lick it up if it gets spilled. I also like the respiratory formula from Forefront and it is pretty reasonable. My gelding with severe COPD did not respond to the CurOst formulas (which I love) but he does great on the Forefront stuff. I just looked up Omega Alpha products but there are 3 different ones that look interesting to try! I also wonder about equipulmin too. I feel going with a liquid herb supplement would be better, I hate the trial and error process though uggg
Thats why I went with the RespiFree, it is a combo of three of the other formulas. I just noticed it went up in price, bummer, used to be $125 a gallon now it's $139. I will still use it though, it worked when lots of other stuff didn't and I don't have to fight the horses to take it. |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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       Location: South Central Florida | Over the years we have used a ton of different products on 2 bladders. We have the current mare scoped at least once a year to check that the current protocol is working. I have had 2 different vets recommend it for bladders and red several arrivals supporting it. As I said, it is expensive for me but if I had my choice I would use it instead of Lasix...but both work for us. We also feed DAD Race mineral and Animal Element Detox. But because of the fact that she has only bled out visibly 2 times, I hate changing what has worked. I say use what works for you, but if it stops worki g, try something else. It doesn't bother the current mare nor the previous bleeder we owned. They are/were both fast and seemed to clock about the same with, or without V, but since the last bleed a few years ago, she doesn't run on nothing...either V or Salix. |
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     Location: Lala Land | Barnmom - 2017-05-06 9:12 PM
I really like RespiFree from OmegaAlpha, works best if you give it every day. My old gelding will suck it out of the syringe but he's weird, he loves Air Power and will lick it up if it gets spilled. I also like the respiratory formula from Forefront and it is pretty reasonable. My gelding with severe COPD did not respond to the CurOst formulas (which I love) but he does great on the Forefront stuff.
Is the Forefront the only thing you give your COPD gelding? |
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     Location: Oregon | Oxy O2 is at a great price right now! Message me. |
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