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| I am new getting into actually owning and breeding my own barrel horses. What is the best futurities with the biggest prize money to attend? I have a 3 year old that is not by a big time barrel stallion, and has never been enrolled in anything as a foal or so. I also have a filly that was just recently born. Her sire is not enrolled in any programs either. How do barrel horse futrities work? What would be the best to attend with my horses? Also what would be the best programs to enroll in/ attend as for breeding in the future?
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Location: Way up North | Where are you located? I know next to nothing about the really big futurities other than you better have a heck of a horse to enter. Up here we have 5 year old futurities vs down south a lot are 4 year old I believe.
We have what is called the Northern Region Futurity Tour up here with open futurities and a few that are breeders incentive as well. Sometime's if you ask the stallion owner they will pay in or donate a breeding so you can be eligible or you can pay the stallion in yourself if you want to be eligible for that added money or you can just compete for the open futurity money. I choose to pay my mare's sire in for one of the breeder's runs but not some of the others. Shawn and Casey have done a great job building up the NRF tour and give great prizes and it is a lot of fun to do. I imagine there are similar programs in other parts of the country.
ETA: this magazine might help with some questions- http://www.thefuturity.com/
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| I am located in North Carolina. As for the smaller futurities I guess a good question would be which is the best to go to that give away the best prizes? I've noticed some, maybe all, state that the horse may not have competed in any barrel race prior to the specific event, but may have entered in other events. So does that mean I may not enter my horse in rodeos/jackpots/shows, but can have competed in other futurities before?I really am confused as how the futurities work in this industry since there are so many different futurities. Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I understand it and pick the best ones for my horses to compete at! |
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Location: OH | To run in a barrel futurity a horse cannot be entered in a barrel race till December 1st of it's three year old year if you are running four year old futurities. You can do exhibitions, time only all you want to season them up until then.
The BFA and Ft Smith are two of the biggest, I would highly recommend you go and view before entering.
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| Mighty Broke - 2017-06-06 10:59 AM
To run in a barrel futurity a horse cannot be entered in a barrel race till December 1st of it's three year old year if you are running four year old futurities. You can do exhibitions, time only all you want to season them up until then.
The BFA and Ft Smith are two of the biggest, I would highly recommend you go and view before entering.
I see. That really helps clear a lot of my questions up. Thank you so much! |
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| One thing that I suggest is to look at results from variouvfuturites and look at the pedigrees of the horses that are winning. That can help you with stallion choices in the future. Breeding pays an important part in the FUTURITY world. BARREL HORSE NEWS puts out a list every year of the top producing stallions and mares. On the East Coast there are some newer futurities that are running. They are called NO BULL FUTURITIES. They may be a good place to start. If there are big payouts, I can assure you they will not be small. |
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| streakysox - 2017-06-06 11:35 AM
One thing that I suggest is to look at results from variouvfuturites and look at the pedigrees of the horses that are winning. That can help you with stallion choices in the future. Breeding pays an important part in the FUTURITY world. BARREL HORSE NEWS puts out a list every year of the top producing stallions and mares. On the East Coast there are some newer futurities that are running. They are called NO BULL FUTURITIES. They may be a good place to start. If there are big payouts, I can assure you they will not be small.
Yes, I agree breeding plays a big roll in barrel horses! My fillies sire has produced some really nice barrel horses, but does not do much breeding so he is not enrolled in programs. Also I purchased the mare already in foal with my filly. I have already chosen the stallion I am breeding back to and he has great blood lines. He is a younger stallion, but with his pedigree he should produce very well! And thank you for the suggestion. I have heard of the No Bull Barrel Races but did not connect/realize that they had a futurity program as well! |
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Location: OH | Don't know where you are in NC but the West Virginia Futurity is this wekend in Winfield. $5000 added and it draws some salty competition if you would like to go check it out. |
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| The BFA in December for coming 4 yr olds probably pays the most along with diamonds and dirt in March. If your colts can be enrolled in incentives I would do that. I've made a lot off of future fortunes. I'm not a huge fan of futurites especially 4 yr old futurities, but for the colts that can handle it and are working really good right now and clocking come fall it's definitely worth a shot. They are expensive to enter. I'd say that's my least favorite part... plus the stall fees ??????. There's a "barrel futurity calander" online where you can check out the upcoming futuritues. Usually you have to enter months in advance or can "buy out" or late enter for a large fee. |
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| luckygirl04 - 2017-06-07 1:28 PM
The BFA in December for coming 4 yr olds probably pays the most along with diamonds and dirt in March. If your colts can be enrolled in incentives I would do that. I've made a lot off of future fortunes. I'm not a huge fan of futurites especially 4 yr old futurities, but for the colts that can handle it and are working really good right now and clocking come fall it's definitely worth a shot. They are expensive to enter. I'd say that's my least favorite part... plus the stall fees ??????. There's a "barrel futurity calander" online where you can check out the upcoming futuritues. Usually you have to enter months in advance or can "buy out" or late enter for a large fee.
I have the same feelings as you lol why are the stall fees so high?? |
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Location: Southern Indiana | horsiace1025 - 2017-06-08 8:42 AM
luckygirl04 - 2017-06-07 1:28 PM
The BFA in December for coming 4 yr olds probably pays the most along with diamonds and dirt in March. If your colts can be enrolled in incentives I would do that. I've made a lot off of future fortunes. I'm not a huge fan of futurites especially 4 yr old futurities, but for the colts that can handle it and are working really good right now and clocking come fall it's definitely worth a shot. They are expensive to enter. I'd say that's my least favorite part... plus the stall fees ??????. There's a "barrel futurity calander" online where you can check out the upcoming futuritues. Usually you have to enter months in advance or can "buy out" or late enter for a large fee.
I have the same feelings as you lol why are the stall fees so high??
Stall fees are usually high because most of these futurities go on for about a week. They aren't just your typical 3 day shows. They'll usually start on about Tuesday running exhibitions and will run finals on Saturday. Stalls usually run about $25/day at a facility. Entries are high well because they want to pay big. Your looking at events that pay as much as $40K to win or $100k in slot races. The good thing is if you can make it to the finals you can atleast win your entry fee back as long as you qualify your run.
Personally I would get my feet wet at some local ones before I entered any bigger ones or enter sidepots at some 3 day shows. It a whole other world. People put way more time and effort into futurity horses, compared to jackpots. If I had to choose one I'd enter the BFA. I've never been to any but it's something I've been studying as I would like to someday.
The southern rebel is in GA in January. That would be a good one to start, since it's close. The panty raid & the IN barrel Futurity would be a couple others that aren't as far. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Devine419 - 2017-06-06 11:06 AM
Mighty Broke - 2017-06-06 10:59 AM
To run in a barrel futurity a horse cannot be entered in a barrel race till December 1st of it's three year old year if you are running four year old futurities. You can do exhibitions, time only all you want to season them up until then.
The BFA and Ft Smith are two of the biggest, I would highly recommend you go and view before entering.
I see. That really helps clear a lot of my questions up. Thank you so much!
I feel like this needs further clarification. A juvenile is typically ran after Dec 1st of their 3 year old year. Up until 12/1 you can not enter them for money. Jan 1st they are 4 years old and then that would be their 4 year old Futurity year and you would begin entering Futurities. Or you could hold them over until 12/1 of their 4 year old year and enter 5 year old futurities. After 12/1 of the year you plan to run futurities you can enter them for money at a jackpot or whatever. The whole idea is that the futurity horses are in their first season of entering.
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| horsiace1025 - 2017-06-08 8:42 AM
luckygirl04 - 2017-06-07 1:28 PM
The BFA in December for coming 4 yr olds probably pays the most along with diamonds and dirt in March. If your colts can be enrolled in incentives I would do that. I've made a lot off of future fortunes. I'm not a huge fan of futurites especially 4 yr old futurities, but for the colts that can handle it and are working really good right now and clocking come fall it's definitely worth a shot. They are expensive to enter. I'd say that's my least favorite part... plus the stall fees ??????. There's a "barrel futurity calander" online where you can check out the upcoming futuritues. Usually you have to enter months in advance or can "buy out" or late enter for a large fee.
I have the same feelings as you lol why are the stall fees so high??
Stall fees are high anywhere. I have paid as much as $75 a day at shows. This how they make their money. Facilities charge at least $15 a day for use of their stalls. That would bea minimum of $90 for 6 days. The producer is going to make some off the stalls.
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2017-06-08 11:09 AM
horsiace1025 - 2017-06-08 8:42 AM
luckygirl04 - 2017-06-07 1:28 PM
The BFA in December for coming 4 yr olds probably pays the most along with diamonds and dirt in March. If your colts can be enrolled in incentives I would do that. I've made a lot off of future fortunes. I'm not a huge fan of futurites especially 4 yr old futurities, but for the colts that can handle it and are working really good right now and clocking come fall it's definitely worth a shot. They are expensive to enter. I'd say that's my least favorite part... plus the stall fees ??????. There's a "barrel futurity calander" online where you can check out the upcoming futuritues. Usually you have to enter months in advance or can "buy out" or late enter for a large fee.
I have the same feelings as you lol why are the stall fees so high??
Stall fees are usually high because most of these futurities go on for about a week. They aren't just your typical 3 day shows. They'll usually start on about Tuesday running exhibitions and will run finals on Saturday. Stalls usually run about $25/day at a facility. Entries are high well because they want to pay big. Your looking at events that pay as much as $40K to win or $100k in slot races. The good thing is if you can make it to the finals you can atleast win your entry fee back as long as you qualify your run.
Personally I would get my feet wet at some local ones before I entered any bigger ones or enter sidepots at some 3 day shows. It a whole other world. People put way more time and effort into futurity horses, compared to jackpots. If I had to choose one I'd enter the BFA. I've never been to any but it's something I've been studying as I would like to someday.
The southern rebel is in GA in January. That would be a good one to start, since it's close. The panty raid & the IN barrel Futurity would be a couple others that aren't as far.
Yes, of course! I would most definitely start with smaller futurities. I like to have a plan. Now I know which futurities are the best to attend! That's what I was looking to learn about! I know neither on my current horses have a shot at the BFA futurities, but maybe one I breed in the future will!
And of course! The higher the payout, the more expensive it will typically be to enter! |
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2017-06-08 11:20 AM
Devine419 - 2017-06-06 11:06 AM
Mighty Broke - 2017-06-06 10:59 AM
To run in a barrel futurity a horse cannot be entered in a barrel race till December 1st of it's three year old year if you are running four year old futurities. You can do exhibitions, time only all you want to season them up until then.
The BFA and Ft Smith are two of the biggest, I would highly recommend you go and view before entering.
I see. That really helps clear a lot of my questions up. Thank you so much!
I feel like this needs further clarification. A juvenile is typically ran after Dec 1st of their 3 year old year. Up until 12/1 you can not enter them for money. Jan 1st they are 4 years old and then that would be their 4 year old Futurity year and you would begin entering Futurities. Or you could hold them over until 12/1 of their 4 year old year and enter 5 year old futurities. After 12/1 of the year you plan to run futurities you can enter them for money at a jackpot or whatever. The whole idea is that the futurity horses are in their first season of entering.
Yes I certainly understand this! I have been in other industries before, so I know how futurities work. It is a little different how you guys start your futurity year as of December 1st instead of January 1st, but it makes sense! I was looking to see which futurities are the best to attend. Thank you! |
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