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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-08-08 3:45 PM
Subject: Pharyngeal Collapse


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Have a horse that has pharyngeal collapse. He's not flipping his pallet but this is what he's been diagnosed with, the pharyngeal collapse. Has anyone dealt with this? What treatment, medications, or anything were you able to do? Was it successful to go back to barrels? Thanks in advance
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-08-08 6:57 PM
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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-08-09 5:21 PM
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Has one done the laser therapy on it? Or injections?
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-08-09 5:59 PM
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A pharyngeal Collapse is different then displacing the soft palate. From what I've read a laser is a possible treatment but sadly in the a lot of cases, it states treatment has not been very successful.
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2017-08-09 6:24 PM
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 3:59 PM

A pharyngeal Collapse is different then displacing the soft palate. From what I've read a laser is a possible treatment but sadly in the a lot of cases, it states treatment has not been very successful.

My understanding was that DDSP is a form of pharyngeal collapse. But my scope of knowledge on the subject is extremely limited so I could certainly be incorrect.
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-08-09 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse


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07milch - 2017-08-09 6:24 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 3:59 PMA pharyngeal Collapse is different then displacing the soft palate. From what I've read a laser is a possible treatment but sadly in the a lot of cases, it states treatment has not been very successful.
My understanding was that DDSP is a form of pharyngeal collapse. But my scope of knowledge on the subject is extremely limited so I could certainly be incorrect.
 No they are not two completely different conditions. The soft palate displaces it doesn't collapse.

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2017-08-09 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse


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I have a mare with it. She's had it since she was a yearling. As far as I know there's not anything you can do for it. Before we found it she had tie back surgery and had her vocal cords trimmed by laser. It was only discovered while we were scoping her for the vocal cord surgery that she had the periodic pharyngeal collapse. She was retired after that. That was ten years ago so maybe they've come up with new treatments ?
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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-08-09 9:20 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse


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The wording on the report says "the video shows a "loose" pharynx that appears to billow and collapse around the opening of the larynx. The larynx appears to show normal function but the vocal folds and aryepiglottic folds will billow at various points during high speed exercise or running"
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2017-08-10 2:13 PM
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 7:32 PM

07milch - 2017-08-09 6:24 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 3:59 PMA pharyngeal Collapse is different then displacing the soft palate. From what I've read a laser is a possible treatment but sadly in the a lot of cases, it states treatment has not been very successful.
My understanding was that DDSP is a form of pharyngeal collapse. But my scope of knowledge on the subject is extremely limited so I could certainly be incorrect.
 No they are not two completely different conditions. The soft palate displaces it doesn't collapse.

They actually aren't completely different. They are both caused by nerve dysfunction in that area, and both have unknown causes as to why the nerve damage occurs. They are both diseases where the tissues are weak (due to the nerve damage) and cannot function properly.. with PC, since normal muscle tone in the pharynx is lacking, the tissue collapses on itself and obstructs airflow. with DDSP, the floppy soft palate gets on top of the epiglottis and obstructs airflow.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2017-08-10 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse



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cmcelroy0308 - 2017-08-08 3:45 PM

Have a horse that has pharyngeal collapse. He's not flipping his pallet but this is what he's been diagnosed with, the pharyngeal collapse. Has anyone dealt with this? What treatment, medications, or anything were you able to do? Was it successful to go back to barrels? Thanks in advance

Heres an interesting article in regards to treating PC. It sounds like as a whole this condition doesn't have a very good success rate but this article sounds a bit promising.

http://www.thehorse.com/articles/34685/surgical-procedure-helps-hor...
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-08-10 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse


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casualdust07 - 2017-08-10 2:13 PM

WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 7:32 PM

07milch - 2017-08-09 6:24 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-08-09 3:59 PMA pharyngeal Collapse is different then displacing the soft palate. From what I've read a laser is a possible treatment but sadly in the a lot of cases, it states treatment has not been very successful.
My understanding was that DDSP is a form of pharyngeal collapse. But my scope of knowledge on the subject is extremely limited so I could certainly be incorrect.
 No they are not two completely different conditions. The soft palate displaces it doesn't collapse.

They actually aren't completely different. They are both caused by nerve dysfunction in that area, and both have unknown causes as to why the nerve damage occurs. They are both diseases where the tissues are weak (due to the nerve damage) and cannot function properly.. with PC, since normal muscle tone in the pharynx is lacking, the tissue collapses on itself and obstructs airflow. with DDSP, the floppy soft palate gets on top of the epiglottis and obstructs airflow.

  I meant displacement of the soft palate wasn't pharyngeal Collapse. That displacement of the soft palate had a better success at treatment and different treatment options compared to pharyngeal Collapse due to the cause of something like inflammation ect.. Where pharyngeal Collapse there isn't much you can do.
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2017-08-11 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Pharyngeal Collapse



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I seem to remember years ago Sassy&Tessa on here had a horse with something similar and she had surgery done successfully.
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