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Frenchmans Guy or A Smooth Guy?

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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-10-06 3:13 AM
Subject: RE: Frenchmans Guy or A Smooth Guy?




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Ask AQHA for their data records of how many horses for each of the
5 panel tests over the past 5 years have had any of the diseases.

Ask for pedigrees and photos of the top 5 horses with each of
the 5 panel tests that had the worst cases.

They cannot provide any factual data or photos of registered
horses. The same old photos keep showing up when some
fool writes another fear story. And of course no one can
identify the one or two horses in the blurred photos or what
country they were from.

The 5 panel tests are just a money grab for AQHA and UC of DAVIS.
Please stop encouraging them to take more money from their
membership. Enuff is never Enuff

On TB mares .. it has been standard protocol for AQHA to ask for
the DNA from the Jockey Club free of charge to the TB mare
owner. Now they have tacked on a $25 or $50 charge to get
a "T" number for your TB mares bred to a qh stallion. This
is not for a DNA test.

AQHA keeps eyeing the high registration fees to register a TB
foal ... so... stop the nonsense or you will be paying a set fee of
$500 to register a 7 month old foal!!!

For instance .. I was at McDonalds with a friend this evening
and her young son orders and pays at the counter for his own
food as a learning tool. He knows the exact amount he pays
for a given order and turned to his Mom to ask for an additional
$1.50 because the prices had gone up this past week. His $5
meal is now almost $7. It made us aware that everything
had gone up across the board >30% .. except the ice cream
cones are still $1 but they eliminated dipping them in chocolate ..
grrrrrrr ... lol

Prices on parts for trucks, tractors, farm equipment and even lawnmowers
have more than tripled in price!! It just keeps getting crazier
and crazier with everyone wanting to become millionaires.

The killer is the price of a light bulb these days with less lumens
to trick you into thinking it is burning less electricity .. lol

Have a nice day!!


Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2017-10-06 3:16 AM
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-10-06 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: Frenchmans Guy or A Smooth Guy?


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madredepeanut - 2017-10-05 9:45 PM
stayceem - 2017-10-05 7:04 AM
dRowe - 2017-10-05 8:33 AM
madredepeanut - 2017-10-05 8:10 AM I agree with a lot of the other posters, I would not buy a foal out of or breed to a sire that has a known genetic defect, even if the mare or foal itself is N/N. We had to have our TB mare DNA tested before she could be registered with the AQHA for her foal to be registered, so I think they are becoming more strict on making sure all horses are tested. I personally would require every mare to be 5 panel tested if I had a stallion I was standing. There are certain bloodlines we are choosing to stay away from because of the genetic disorders, even though there are some amazing stallions that we would love to breed to or buy offspring from.
I'm genuinely asking this because I don't know the answer. Not trying to challenge you! But why, even if a foal was N/N,would you not consider it? If the horse doesn't carry the gene (even though it's sire does), does it matter? Again, asking to learn!!!!!! I know tone can't come across on a computer. I'm genuinely wanting to learn.
I feel the same way as this poster and my reasoning is this.... I believe that there are a lot yet to be known about the genetic diseases. I look at this 15 years ago to now and the major differences. And I really believe stallions should be the best of the best, no defects and therefore, I only support horses that meet the criteria I personally want. This isn't meant to be mean but its just my own personal opinion/choice.
Oh gosh, I am not trying to have any sort of ‘tone’ or come across as challenging in any way That’s the darn problem with computers and not having a face-to-face conversation. Our reasoning goes along the same lines as the other reply to your post here, and @wyomingbarrelracer, I think stallions should be the best of the best and we should not be passing down genetic defects even if the horses are stellar athletes. I understand there are genetic mutations in the TB world, just like in any breed. But there’s a difference between mutations and defects. A mutation is a type of defect, and it’s not always a bad thing. Think of different colored eyes in humans, those are genetic mutations in our DNA. Defects are congenital disorders or diseases. Yes, there is a difference between DNA testing to verify parentage and the 5 panel, but we also had her 5 panel tested and submitted that to the AQHA. There is still so much to learn about equine genetics, and the defects we know about today could mutate again and someday become something completely different, but my husband and I would rather breed and raise horses that are free in every known aspect of any genetic defect, and try to keep the slate as clean as possible. I also realize this is a heavily debated topic, and I’m just simply stating my opinion. I am not challenging anyone’s views, nor am I judging other people for theirs.

I agree. No tone meant here either. We have all these wonderful horses to choose from, I just see no point in breeding to something we KNOW has a defect.. Regardless if there will be other defects found in the future, what we know here and now, I will not breed to those with known defects. 
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