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Southtxponygirl
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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining. 

Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes draining    I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds. 
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-10-12 3:43 PM Think twice on castrating before a year old!! At 5 months he has no antibodies in his system due to colostrum and no contact with other bacteria in that short time of being alive to have any type of immunity. At 5 months most are the size of peanuts and easy to make a mistake when pulling them down to get the "worm" to insure he doesn't turn out to be proud cut. As you can see the incision is large for this size of foal and folks the yellow is a spray disinfectant administered by the vet. Adult sized hands require a certain amount of working room to make sure things are being done correctly!! Appears like the incision remained laid open instead of skin to skin closure which would be normal in a larger older colt. You would need a special smaller pair of emasculators on this size of foal which are really needed to stop the bleeding, swelling and closing him off for fast healing. IMO none were used. He looks much better but I believe in being preventive so I would do the following ... Time to be a little aggressive ... Cold water thumb pressure spray the area for 5 minutes daily .. Make sure you spray some into his sheath to keep it clean and open Puff a good amount of caustic powder on the incision area that appears to be having a problem with proud flesh for a week. Since this colt has no real immunity to anything ... I would give him a powdered antibiotic and make sure he eats it or make a solution and pull it into a syringe to give by mouth like you would worming. Give him 50% more per dose so any leakage from his mouth is covered. If anyone gives him an IM shot make sure you alcohol the injection site and use a 20 gauge needle. LAST THING ... make sure he is peeing out his sheath and no leakage in the incision area .. Don't quibble around or short cut my suggestions ... the cost is less than a burger, fries and coke ... lol FYI: caustic powder eats the unique to a horse of granulated flesh that may trap a pool of infection and if allowed to turn into proud flesh it can take forever to close and will grow a gristle which creates a knot under the skin after he heals up ... Now is the time to get to work .. And next time wait till they are long yearlings or 2 yr olds .. GOOD LUCK
That yellow is most likely tissue, there wouldn't be any "disinfectant spray" 2 1/2 weeks later. Caustic powder would be the last thing I'd throw on there. Pressure hosing wouldn't be recommended, gentle cold water hosing yes (even my vet said NO to any cold water hosing). Powder antibiotic could reek havoc on his tummy at 5 months old, probably recently weaned? Colts his age do have immunity, colostrum helps them develop their healthy immune system, which usually takes over at 3-5 days old. I don't know where you get your "facts" but they often leave me scratching my head.
************************************************** Why do you embarrass yourself like this?? Colostrum has essentially lost its affects by 5 months old so it is imperative not to do anything that requires stress and possibly an infection site as they gain immunity to everyday bacteria. Powdered antibiotics are one of the least powerful and widest ranges you can give to assist his body attack system to concentrate on the incision area. Thumb pressure water spraying increases blood flow and massages the area to help healing. Look at her 2nd set of photos ... all that yellow stained areas outside the incision area on hair and skin is what in your opinion?? The yellow at the incision is the same color .... Whoops left out a comment on caustic powder ... prevents proud flesh while doctoring a 'cut' with other approved methods regardless where the 'cut' may be. This happens to be in the darkest and nastiest part of a horses body and needs 1-2 flushings per day to keep a bacterial infection in check .. What would you suggest .. debridement .. and creating a massive loss of blood and increasing the wound size?? Here is an excellent article to help you out ... the lady vet has a mile long number of titles and education ... https://practicalhorsemanmag.com/health-archive/equine-proud-flesh-p... My experience raising horses for 50 years is my fact book .. lol Be careful on scratching your head ... bald women very seldom get asked out on a date ... lol
No one is embarrass. . But you just like to hear yourself ramble on and on..   

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Kay-DRacing.
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Posted 2017-10-12 8:46 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:24 PM

Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining.Β 

Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes drainingΒ  Β  I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds.Β 

Thank you! Honestly, I was a bit worried when y'all said to call the vet right away. So I did and she actually just got back to me and says it looks normal thru pictures. I believe I'll have her out tomorrow. He was feeling really good tonight while I rode my other to give the little guy some exercise. So that made me feel better!! Here's a pic after his exercising tonight.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-10-12 8:53 PM
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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 8:46 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:24 PM
Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining. 
Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes draining    I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds. 
Thank you! Honestly, I was a bit worried when y'all said to call the vet right away. So I did and she actually just got back to me and says it looks normal thru pictures. I believe I'll have her out tomorrow. He was feeling really good tonight while I rode my other to give the little guy some exercise. So that made me feel better!! Here's a pic after his exercising tonight.

That one picture that you showed us befor he started to drain looked really bad and painfull, so glad hes ok,, Yep I would love to see a full picture of him..  



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Chandler's Mom
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Posted 2017-10-12 9:08 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 8:53 PM

Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 8:46 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:24 PM
Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining.Β 
Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes drainingΒ  Β  I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds.Β 
Thank you! Honestly, I was a bit worried when y'all said to call the vet right away. So I did and she actually just got back to me and says it looks normal thru pictures. I believe I'll have her out tomorrow. He was feeling really good tonight while I rode my other to give the little guy some exercise. So that made me feel better!! Here's a pic after his exercising tonight.

That one picture that you showed us befor he started to drain looked really bad and painfull, so glad hes ok,, Yep I would love to see a full picture of him..Β Β 

I agree on seeing his complete picture---you're gonna give him a complex showing just THAT part of him
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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2017-10-12 9:12 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-12 9:08 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 8:53 PM
Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 8:46 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:24 PM
Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining. 
Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes draining    I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds. 
Thank you! Honestly, I was a bit worried when y'all said to call the vet right away. So I did and she actually just got back to me and says it looks normal thru pictures. I believe I'll have her out tomorrow. He was feeling really good tonight while I rode my other to give the little guy some exercise. So that made me feel better!! Here's a pic after his exercising tonight.
That one picture that you showed us befor he started to drain looked really bad and painfull, so glad hes ok,, Yep I would love to see a full picture of him..  
I agree on seeing his complete picture---you're gonna give him a complex showing just THAT part of him

LOL..  
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-10-12 9:19 PM
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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 8:46 PM

Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:24 PM

Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-12 1:28 PM Thanks yall. I have a call into my vet. Still waiting to hear back and will keep you posted. In the mean time I ran home and took more pics. It IS draining.Β 

Wow these pictures look a whole lot better, man you had me really worried there for a while. Thanks goodness hes drainingΒ  Β  I think I would still want to take him in to the vet and make sure everything is OK on the healing part and see if he does need any meds.Β 

Thank you! Honestly, I was a bit worried when y'all said to call the vet right away. So I did and she actually just got back to me and says it looks normal thru pictures. I believe I'll have her out tomorrow. He was feeling really good tonight while I rode my other to give the little guy some exercise. So that made me feel better!! Here's a pic after his exercising tonight.

Glad he is feeling good!!!
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Kay-DRacing.
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Posted 2017-10-12 10:21 PM
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Haha poor fella. He's been such a trooper. I've never been around such a laid back colt! Sucker isn't afraid of anything either. I'll post pics tomorrow since they won't let me load from my phone!

Side note is there was much less swelling tonight all around. Praying it stays that way.
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streakysox
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Posted 2017-10-13 9:41 AM
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the horse does not look that bad. Several things to remember.

1. Gravity pulls everything downward to the lowest point. That swelling is fluid that has relocated not infection.

2. Gelding a 5 month old colt is a little early. Vets often have to go up into the abdominal cavity which is more invasive

3. Only geld when the signs are right. They do not bleed and will not swell.
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Kay-DRacing.
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streakysox - 2017-10-13 9:41 AM

the horse does not look that bad. Several things to remember.

1. Gravity pulls everything downward to the lowest point. That swelling is fluid that has relocated not infection.

2. Gelding a 5 month old colt is a little early. Vets often have to go up into the abdominal cavity which is more invasive

3. Only geld when the signs are right. They do not bleed and will not swell.

Thanks for your input! He looked even better this morning. Seems like everything is distributing like it should and no swelling at all.
I was told he had already dropped when he was gelded and it was very easy. Everything went smoothly.
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Kay-DRacing.
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 Meet Flashin In the Reign aka Wilson aka the infamous weiner. I have high hopes for this guy in the future!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flashin+in+the+reign
PS - I dont have the greatest of pictures because he wont stand still long enough for me to get a decent view so I have to catch him off guard to get the glam shots.

Thank you again for all of the advice and kind words. Really put my mind at ease when I needed it most! Yall are the best!

 



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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-13 10:10 AM  Meet Flashin In the Reign aka Wilson aka the infamous weiner. I have high hopes for this guy in the future!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flashin+in+the+reign

PS - I dont have the greatest of pictures because he wont stand still long enough for me to get a decent view so I have to catch him off guard to get the glam shots.



Thank you again for all of the advice and kind words. Really put my mind at ease when I needed it most! Yall are the best!


 

Lol!!
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Posted 2017-10-13 12:55 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-12 5:31 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-10-12 4:18 PM
Meep.Meep - 2017-10-12 3:52 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-10-12 3:43 PM Think twice on castrating before a year old!! At 5 months he has no antibodies in his system due to colostrum and no contact with other bacteria in that short time of being alive to have any type of immunity. At 5 months most are the size of peanuts and easy to make a mistake when pulling them down to get the "worm" to insure he doesn't turn out to be proud cut. As you can see the incision is large for this size of foal and folks the yellow is a spray disinfectant administered by the vet. Adult sized hands require a certain amount of working room to make sure things are being done correctly!! Appears like the incision remained laid open instead of skin to skin closure which would be normal in a larger older colt. You would need a special smaller pair of emasculators on this size of foal which are really needed to stop the bleeding, swelling and closing him off for fast healing. IMO none were used. He looks much better but I believe in being preventive so I would do the following ... Time to be a little aggressive ... Cold water thumb pressure spray the area for 5 minutes daily .. Make sure you spray some into his sheath to keep it clean and open Puff a good amount of caustic powder on the incision area that appears to be having a problem with proud flesh for a week. Since this colt has no real immunity to anything ... I would give him a powdered antibiotic and make sure he eats it or make a solution and pull it into a syringe to give by mouth like you would worming. Give him 50% more per dose so any leakage from his mouth is covered. If anyone gives him an IM shot make sure you alcohol the injection site and use a 20 gauge needle. LAST THING ... make sure he is peeing out his sheath and no leakage in the incision area .. Don't quibble around or short cut my suggestions ... the cost is less than a burger, fries and coke ... lol FYI: caustic powder eats the unique to a horse of granulated flesh that may trap a pool of infection and if allowed to turn into proud flesh it can take forever to close and will grow a gristle which creates a knot under the skin after he heals up ... Now is the time to get to work .. And next time wait till they are long yearlings or 2 yr olds .. GOOD LUCK
That yellow is most likely tissue, there wouldn't be any "disinfectant spray" 2 1/2 weeks later. Caustic powder would be the last thing I'd throw on there. Pressure hosing wouldn't be recommended, gentle cold water hosing yes (even my vet said NO to any cold water hosing). Powder antibiotic could reek havoc on his tummy at 5 months old, probably recently weaned? Colts his age do have immunity, colostrum helps them develop their healthy immune system, which usually takes over at 3-5 days old. I don't know where you get your "facts" but they often leave me scratching my head.
************************************************** Why do you embarrass yourself like this?? Colostrum has essentially lost its affects by 5 months old so it is imperative not to do anything that requires stress and possibly an infection site as they gain immunity to everyday bacteria. Powdered antibiotics are one of the least powerful and widest ranges you can give to assist his body attack system to concentrate on the incision area. Thumb pressure water spraying increases blood flow and massages the area to help healing. Look at her 2nd set of photos ... all that yellow stained areas outside the incision area on hair and skin is what in your opinion?? The yellow at the incision is the same color .... Whoops left out a comment on caustic powder ... prevents proud flesh while doctoring a 'cut' with other approved methods regardless where the 'cut' may be. This happens to be in the darkest and nastiest part of a horses body and needs 1-2 flushings per day to keep a bacterial infection in check .. What would you suggest .. debridement .. and creating a massive loss of blood and increasing the wound size?? Here is an excellent article to help you out ... the lady vet has a mile long number of titles and education ... https://practicalhorsemanmag.com/health-archive/equine-proud-flesh-p... My experience raising horses for 50 years is my fact book .. lol Be careful on scratching your head ... bald women very seldom get asked out on a date ... lol
No one is embarrass. . But you just like to hear yourself ramble on and on..   
LOL....his posts make you want to go blah...blah...blah...blah ...... and 50 years of experience only proves that he was LUCKY  !

Edited by NJJ 2017-10-13 2:03 PM
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What a pretty boy!! Glad he is doing so well!
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The last one I got gelded I went by the "signs" because I read so much about how it works. My horse bled like a stuck pig and swelled for 3 weeks. Maybe I am just unlucky. But he did live, so it's all good now! We also castrated our bull calves by the signs last time and we lost two of them, normally don't lose any. No more "sign" reading for me lol
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Posted 2017-10-13 2:14 PM
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Meep.Meep - 2017-10-13 1:43 PM What a pretty boy!! Glad he is doing so well!

Thank you! Im a sucker for a bay and big white blazes. This is my first time owning a weanling so I feel like I have so much to learn and he makes me feel like I know so little! Im not sure why because I've owned horses for all but 6 years of my life but he does!
 
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Posted 2017-10-13 2:17 PM
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Meep.Meep - 2017-10-13 1:57 PM The last one I got gelded I went by the "signs" because I read so much about how it works. My horse bled like a stuck pig and swelled for 3 weeks. Maybe I am just unlucky. But he did live, so it's all good now! We also castrated our bull calves by the signs last time and we lost two of them, normally don't lose any. No more "sign" reading for me lol

WOW...that is scary! Im glad he made it! I was told if the kahuna's are there, they can be taken! So that's what they did. I think I just got the ladder side effects unfortunately. 
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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-10-13 2:14 PM

Meep.Meep - 2017-10-13 1:43 PM What a pretty boy!! Glad he is doing so well!

Thank you! Im a sucker for a bay and big white blazes. This is my first time owning a weanling so I feel like I have so much to learn and he makes me feel like I know so little! Im not sure why because I've owned horses for all but 6 years of my life but he does!
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You'll have so much fun with him!! The most rewarding thing I ever did was start raising and buying babies, starting them from the ground up is so much work but such a great experience!
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Posted 2017-10-13 9:03 PM
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Love his name---seems kinda appropriate after this post

And he's a very pretty boy, looks even better from his top side
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Kay-DRacing.
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Posted 2017-10-14 7:40 AM
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 Haha I didn't even think about his name and tying in with this post! Haha! Thank you all. I'm excited to see where he leads us and can hopefully take some pressure off of my other gelding in years to come. 
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