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Location: Somewhere around here | I tried looking up some past threads about this but kept on coming up empty or on slightly different topics.
For those of you who have had reining rejects, what did you do if they were ridden too much behind the bit, when they tuck their head into their chest when you ask for them to slow down? |
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| I have trained 2. With one I went back to a snaffle. Zero shank. For the other one I went with a Jim warner hack. Got everything out of his mouth ! Hope that helps! |
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| Breezing them helped the couple that I've ridden =] Once they learned to put some fire in their step, they started to push in to the bridle more. Good luck! |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | I would bit around to the cantle or tail and teach them to follow their nose. I have a nice colt that I had someone ship cattle on and he did a great job but holy heck the nose thing being tucked in drove me crazy. You could neck rein him but he wouldn't follow his nose............I did this and just tied him around about 15 minutes each direction ......and heck solved it for me...................... |
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Location: WYOMING | On mine I went to a mullen mouth bit and with your hands very forward and higher on the neck you pull upward. It isnt an easy thing to untrain. |
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| My mare was a started reiner and used to have this problem. She rarely does it anymore. If she backs off the bit too much, I use my legs to push her forward into the bridle and also push the reins forward and lift them up to raise her up out of it. Once you get them out of it, it should be easier to work on getting them to slow down using your seat and other aids. It is important to release rein pressure right away if they do what you ask. If they evade the bit and you continue to hold pressure, they will just keep doing it. |
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| Any time a horse sucks behind the bit it's fixed by making sure you are riding forward into a soft, following hand. Use a snaffle, either two or three piece, whatever works for you, although the more movement there is the harder it'll be to fix. I eventually had to go back to a side pull, with vet wrap on the nose band, to fix it in my mare. Once a horse has been made afraid of a riders hands, it takes a lot of quiet, gentle patience with a soft hand to correct. |
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Location: Loco,Ok | I get several. A year. Put one of my hackamore on and start working the flag. I try take all stop.out for a while let them trickle down to a stop. Most of them I pen rope breakaway until I can ride them to the calf. Give them a job. Something else to focus on. Takes a bit of time. Don't get frustrated. |
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Location: North Dakota | I've had one that I've retrained. I rode him for my aunt to get him tuned up because she needed to sell him. His history was a bit unknown but she thought he had some reining training at one point and was shown. (Horse was bought for her as a gift from ex-boyfriend ..... haha, LONG story!!) He was 12 years old.
He was the type where you could bend his nose to the left, and he'd still be galloping off to the right. And if you'd ask him to slow down or put contact on the reins, his nose was to his chest and was totally evading the bit. I don't know what kind of "reining training" he had ... but it was all wrong. He had no body control whatsoever.
First thing I did was put him back in a plain snaffle and got out on the trails (did as little arena work as possible). Surprisingly, he was super super soft mouthed and a plain snaffle was plenty of "whoa" for him. I just totally stayed off his mouth and rode him on a loose rein. I just tried to re-teach him to" be a horse" and learn that if I picked up on the reins, I did not need him to put his nose to his chest -- I just needed him to give to me a little.
I was amazed at how fast he came around.
I just have to show pictures because I thought he was just stunning. Even cleaned up well to do a local low-key show. (and riding with contact and NOT putting his nose to his chest!!)
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Location: Arizona | geronabean - 2017-11-09 11:14 AM
On mine I went to a mullen mouth bit and with your hands very forward and higher on the neck you pull upward. It isnt an easy thing to untrain.
So true, my cues and her cues were too different things. I had to finally ask someone who trained reining horses why she was doing what she was doing...lol. Finally I have taught her to untuck her nose from her chest (breezing totally helps), I had to learn to ride her differently....agreed, it's not easy. |
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| Maybe take a lesson from a reining trainer on how to ride a reining horse- they are completely different from how barrel horses are usually trained, but they do make nice barrel horses if you learn how to ride them. For instance, they do not slow down by pulling back on the reins- pulling on the reins is a cue to frame up more, not slow down. If you want them to slow down, release the reins, sit back, and take your legs off their sides, and say W...H...O...A...... putting legs on and taking up on the reins means go forward and collect more, not slow down. What the OP is going through happens alot when ropers get reining rejects and think they'll make easy heel or calf horses- except they don't know how their buttons work. Seriously, don't try to learn to ride a reiner from a barrel racer- just like a barrel racer wouldn't learn how to ride a barrel horse from a reiner- learn how to ride the reiner from the reiner who trained him, and then take that to the barrel pen. Good luck :) And you're welcome-
Edited by trickster j 2017-11-18 8:33 PM
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