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Location: Somewhere around here | My horse and I we're doing transition with yesterday and I noticed the when I ask for a lope my horse will take a step or two to the outside before actually loping. I worked on fixing this problem by asking him to bring his hip in whenever he took a hind leg to the outside, which I mainly did this at a walk. He was doing much better at the end of the ride but are there any tips for me to work on this more? Any exercises? |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | what are you doing with your legs? |
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Location: Somewhere around here | cindyt - 2017-12-21 7:08 AM
what are you doing with your legs?
I ask for his right lead by putting pressure on him with my right calf and I also lift my right hand up slightly. I don't use my outside leg when I ask for a right legged lope transition. |
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Location: Loco,Ok | Your outside leg,foot. Keep their rear end under you. You press not kick. When only use the directional rein and foot leg they are not balanced under you. Balance the withers under you |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | I agree with Clampitt, I use the outside leg to keep the hip in but I also lift the inside rein slightly higher to elevate the shoulder so they can strike out on that lead easier. Your horse is pobably yielding to the inside leg pressure and moving to the outside away from it, hence the two tracking effect. I use the squares exercise on and off the barrels to balance one up. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Thanks for the help, but did that mean I have to completely retrain him to pick up his left lead with my right leg and visa versa? |
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Location: Loco,Ok | No just use your legs and feet to balance the withers under you. Back circle was said above. That will help. But don't go to far with it I have found. Back say right about quarter of the circle. Step out with front end in a straight line. When you feel him balanced under you. You have a directional rein and balance rein. Same with your legs and feet. Directional leg and balance leg. You move the horse with your legs and bend them with your foot. There's three parts to the leg. Hip to knee. Knee to ankle and your foot. They all have a different use. When y use them. You because more stable on your horse. Might try taking your stirrups up one hole. You lift the horse shoulder with their rib balance the withers under you. The more you use your legs and feet. Not only stability but you become more aware of them where they are. With that more confident. Don't lean or pump your body. Get quiet with your hands and body. It will take some time to get it figured out. When you do you will feel the difference. In both of you. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | I agree with Clampitt... and I will ad something fun to try, just even standing still or at a walk is make his hips move and keep his front feet still.
For example, standing, take your left leg and press and ask to move his rear to the right and keep his front feet still... opposite for the other side, get total control of that rear end. once you have it standing still ask for it in circles, I even tinker back and forth between moving the shoulder, and moving the rear
Im a control freak lol |
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| We get very focused on that front leg when we’re training for leads, it’s what we can see so it’s easy to identify.
The start of the stride for the canter or lope is actually the outside rear foot. So left rear for right lead and vice versa. The inside front foot in actually the last beat of the 3.
I’ll be honest - I’ve never understood asking for the canter with the inside foot. Maybe it’s because every trainer I ever rode with in my younger years used the outside, but it makes more sense to me. Your leg controls the hip and the outside hip is what you need to pick up the correct lead. When I’m working colts I really make sure I have them moving forward and swinging that hip up under themselves. When I sit I anchor the outside hip with my outside seat bone and add a slight inside bend, then push them up into the inside rein with my outside leg. |
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Location: North Dakota | The basic for controlling the hip is to loosen it up. I'll do this by yielding the hindquarters (moving the hip) in both directions, while making sure they are crossing over themselves and picking up the hind ribcage in the process. If they are shuffling their feet or not picking up their ribs then your not doing it correctly. You'll feel them freely move the hip once they get it and when they pick up the ribcage their head will lower.
Once I've got the hip softened up I'll do shoulder in, shoulder out, hip in, hip out exercises along with lateral work and two tracking to get everything else working freely. Of course from there you work into collection.
And I do use my outside leg for lope departures. I press it into them by the back cinch.
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