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 Mrs. BigWig
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Location: chasing kids and animals | Ok Guys, I would love to hear everyones input on this product ..pros and con.
How often do you feed it and do you give some before a run?
Edited by barrelrunner97 2018-01-10 9:28 AM
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| I started it a month ago and I am really really liking the results!!! I don't use the 6 servings a day but I combine the outlast with the ultium gastric care. | |
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| We've started using it about 2 months ago. So far we really like what we see. | |
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 The One
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Location: South Georgia | Nobody carries it anywhere near me. They say there is not enough demand to make an order. :( | |
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| horsegirl - 2018-01-10 7:13 AM
Nobody carries it anywhere near me. They say there is not enough demand to make an order. :(
I can totally sympathize with you on that one!!! My local purina dealer was the same way not enough demand. So I found a feedstore about 60 miles away that carries it so I go once a month and get a few bags. Its a very small alfalfa based pellet that should have a really long shelf life as compared to really sweet feeds etc. The dose is 1.25 cups and you can feed up to 6 servings a day. I feed the gastric care ultium 1 pound 3x a day ( They recommend a lot more for mine based on weight but they don't need that much). so mine get 1 pound gastric care and 1 cup outlast 3x a day. Horses really love it. | |
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Mrs. BigWig
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Location: chasing kids and animals | I am feeding mine 2xs a day the scoop provided in bag. They love it and eating their feed better. I have not cinced my 3yr OTTB since I put her on it a wk ago but anxious to see if I can tell a difference as she was a lil cinchy. | |
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| barrelrunner97 - 2018-01-10 7:32 AM
I am feeding mine 2xs a day the scoop provided in bag. They love it and eating their feed better. I have not cinced my 3yr OTTB since I put her on it a wk ago but anxious to see if I can tell a difference as she was a lil cinchy.
You get a scoop in your bag?????? Dang!!! Not me!! | |
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| Anyone know or think by feeding this you could get rid of other ulcer prevent supplements? There's so many to choose from it's very overwhelming what might actually work! | |
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| Is this for gastric ulcers & colonic ulcers? Or just gastric? | |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am skeptical about Purina Outlast because it's just another processed feed, which are high in ingredients that cause ulcers-Corn, Molasses etc. I use a small amount of Ultium Growth for my weanlings and Senior Active for the old guy, but so many feeds like this cause more issues than they could ever help-gastrically speaking. Vitamin E Supplement?? What is that? Why not use a pure form of Vitamin E? If it isn't a natural vitamin, the horse's rarely can absorb it. So you are paying for synthetic ingredients that just go in one side and out the other...
Their ingredient list is just so similar to their bagged processed feeds...Wheat Middlings, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Ground Soybean Hulls, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Cane Molasses, Wheat Flour, Stabilized Rice Bran, Vegetable Oil, Oat Hulls, Ground Corn, Seaweed-Derived Calcium, Thiamine Mononitrate, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Flaxseed, Magnesium Oxide, Salt, L-Lysine, Calcium Carbonate, DL-Methionine, Citric Acid, Phosphoric Acid, Dicalcium Phosphate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Propionic Acid (a Preservative), Vitamin E Supplement, Colored with Iron Oxide, Yeast Extract, Rice Hulls, Choline Chloride, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Riboflavin Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols (Form of Vitamin E), Ferrous Carbonate, Rosemary Extract. | |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2018-01-10 5:10 PM
I am skeptical about Purina Outlast because it's just another processed feed, which are high in ingredients that cause ulcers-Corn, Molasses etc. I use a small amount of Ultium Growth for my weanlings and Senior Active for the old guy, but so many feeds like this cause more issues than they could ever help-gastrically speaking. Vitamin E Supplement?? What is that? Why not use a pure form of Vitamin E? If it isn't a natural vitamin, the horse's rarely can absorb it. So you are paying for synthetic ingredients that just go in one side and out the other...
Their ingredient list is just so similar to their bagged processed feeds...Wheat Middlings, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Ground Soybean Hulls, Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Cane Molasses, Wheat Flour, Stabilized Rice Bran, Vegetable Oil, Oat Hulls, Ground Corn, Seaweed-Derived Calcium, Thiamine Mononitrate, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Flaxseed, Magnesium Oxide, Salt, L-Lysine, Calcium Carbonate, DL-Methionine, Citric Acid, Phosphoric Acid, Dicalcium Phosphate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Propionic Acid (a Preservative), Vitamin E Supplement, Colored with Iron Oxide, Yeast Extract, Rice Hulls, Choline Chloride, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Riboflavin Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols (Form of Vitamin E), Ferrous Carbonate, Rosemary Extract.
I agree as I am too skeptical on trying Outlast, I don't see any ingredients in there really that are natural or help? | |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | DL in front of a vitamin/mineral is the synthetic. Much cheaper to buy and not as readily absorbed by the system. Since several of the ingredients just say Vit E Supplement, Vit A Supplement, Vit D3 Supplement I am going to guess it is a synthetic form of the vitamin. DL-Methionine is an amino acid...the synthetic chemical version. The cost of the bag is rediculous compared to the quality of the ingredients, just my opinion. | |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Ive had great results on it! my boys love it. they get 1 cup am and pm on their feed and they get 1 cup before getting in the trailer. I used to use the DAC cool gut (which i also LOVED and saw a wonderful difference with as well) but my superrrr picky eater wouldnt touch it so i wanted them both on the same thing so i wasnt going all over for different supplements. 1 bag last me about 1 month for both horses. i didnt get a scoop in my bag either. what the heck! lol | |
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 Did I miss the party?
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| I'm not seeing any ingredients that make this different than any of the other calcium based gastric buffers? Neighlox, Ugard, etc etc??
And no, nothing in here that would treat hind gut ulcers.
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| It sure keeps the race horses eating! We did our own lil study by giving it to half the barn and not the other half. The half that had it NEVER once went off their feed after races or works. The other half did. To us its worth the money for sure.
It seems to cool down some nervous stall pacers too as i assume their stomachs are less irritated. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | wyoming barrel racer - 2018-01-10 8:29 PM DL in front of a vitamin/mineral is the synthetic. Much cheaper to buy and not as readily absorbed by the system. Since several of the ingredients just say Vit E Supplement, Vit A Supplement, Vit D3 Supplement I am going to guess it is a synthetic form of the vitamin. DL-Methionine is an amino acid...the synthetic chemical version. The cost of the bag is rediculous compared to the quality of the ingredients, just my opinion.
I agree completely with the cost vs the ingredient list. | |
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2018-01-12 7:13 AM
It sure keeps the race horses eating! We did our own lil study by giving it to half the barn and not the other half. The half that had it NEVER once went off their feed after races or works. The other half did. To us its worth the money for sure.
It seems to cool down some nervous stall pacers too as i assume their stomachs are less irritated.
My mare is a pacer/mother type who would fret if the neighbors moved their mares and foals around to different pens etc. Since being on the outlast she has STOPPED completely!!! Not sure how/why it works but I am not complaining. | |
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