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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-24 9:27 PM
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Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
Does anyone know this person "Pat Cleveland" and her work with horses?
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smatty
Reg. May 2017
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2018-02-26 2:43 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
Location: Washington State
She was actually staying in the apartment at the barn that I board at. And she "read" my horse who's stall is right across the aisle way from the apartment. I have a shorter cutting bred mare who is full of personality and spunk. She told the barn owner, who then told me, that my mare has a "blocked liver" which is causing fibromyalgia type pain all over her body.
Now, as a back story my mare has been sore on her left side for a few months. I've only noticed a change when turning left at a lope or faster. I have had regular chiropractic work on her and lots of long trotting to build her muscles back up and she has been doing great and feeling much better. Do I think she has a "blocked liver"? No. Do I think she's experiencing fibromylagia pain all over her body? No. She doesn't show any signs of being in pain, she's just a naturally sensitive horse and has been her entire life and responds to very slight cues on the ground and under saddle.
For her to work on your horse, your horse cannot be shod and cannot be ridden for 6 weeks after.
She's having a half day clinic in about a week in my area and it's very cheap so I was going to go to see what it's about, hopefully learn something new. But it makes me skeptical when she has already diagnosed my horse but needs $300 to work on her and "fix" her.
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-26 4:20 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
I wouldn't call that a diagnosis. It is hear-say. She normally won't accept an audience. She likes to see the owner and horse to get a feel about the horse. This doesn't seem professional saying that to someone other than the owner or saying anything about the horse uless the owner is paying for her services.
This is my first time with her. I've seen vidio of horses she has helped here in Oregon. Pat will be here in a week. I don't like the part about leaving shoes off for 6 weeks either. It could do more harm to me.
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-26 9:23 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
You may consider having blood drawn to be sure your mare doesn't have a liver disease.
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-27 9:56 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
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2018-02-28 7:34 AM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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I feel like this lady def stays on the west coast for sure
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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
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2018-02-28 8:30 AM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass
If the horse can not be shod or ridden for 6 weeks after her work how would you know if she did anything for the horse.
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-28 12:03 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
BS Hauler - 2018-02-28 6:30 AM
If the horse can not be shod or ridden for 6 weeks after her work how would you know if she did anything for the horse.
It depends on the what she is doing with the top part of the body or legs. It may change the way the horse moves and shoes may cause restriction.
Pat is more on going to the cause of the symptoms.
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smatty
Reg. May 2017
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2018-02-28 1:40 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
Location: Washington State
skye - 2018-02-26 7:23 PM
You may consider having blood drawn to be sure your mare doesn't have a liver disease.
My mare is regularly treated by a veterinarian. In my personal opinion I will follow my veterinarian's recommendation more than someone who was "speaking" to my horse. :
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ShackinBarrelRacer
Reg. Dec 2017
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2018-02-28 2:34 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
Location: Middle TN
smatty - 2018-02-27 2:40 PM
skye - 2018-02-26 7:23 PM
You may consider having blood drawn to be sure your mare doesn't have a liver disease.
My mare is regularly treated by a veterinarian. In my personal opinion I will follow my veterinarian's recommendation more than someone who was "speaking" to my horse. :
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Touche!!! My hard earned money is going to go to someone who is schooled and licensed with the last 3 letters of their name being DVM. I speak to my horses all the time - stop, move over or back up. LOL
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-28 8:54 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
Many vets and owners see the symptom but look no further as to what the cause may be. The symptom is band-aid everytime the symptom returns tell the horse is unfixable.
People don't observe for the feelings of animals of one another well. It is just lost that observation.
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
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2018-02-28 9:00 PM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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Location: The Great Northwest
smatty - 2018-02-28 11:40 AM
skye - 2018-02-26 7:23 PM You may consider having blood drawn to be sure your mare doesn't have a liver disease.
My mare is regularly treated by a veterinarian. In my personal opinion I will follow my veterinarian's recommendation more than someone who was "speaking" to my horse. :
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It isn't speaking it is observation of feelings that lead to awareness of physical and mental trouble. It could be a simple accupressure or kensiology that is needed to correct.
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
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2018-03-01 7:24 AM
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RE: Balanced Horse Project
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There are many injuries and many horses that can benefit from 6 months not being worked.....no shoes however during this time probably causes problems for some of them when they go back to work....the owner probably doesn't even realize its a problem until weeks later tho and think something else caused it. Many horses can founder from pulling shoes and just turning them out when they've been stall kept their whole lives with shoes on.
hocus pocus has it's place but not in most barns
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