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Location: Iowa | I have a sore gelding and I do not know why! My 11 year gelding is sore in his back right area. By sore I mean he rests his back right leg a lot, he is slightly tender when palpated anywhere in the general area and after really knowing my horse for years, I can just tell when he isn’t his full self. He is not swollen, hot or lame anywhere.
I have had my farrier check his hooves and trim him up. I have had my chiropractor adjust him and my massage therapist work on him. Then I had my vet x-ray his hocks and stifles. So far we have found nothing but they all agree that his sore somewhere, somehow. It is finally becoming spring time here in the Midwest so he has had 3 month off and I would really like to get him back in shape.
Can the cold hard ground make him sore after standing on it for months? Can a bean make him sore in his back end? We wanted to clean his sheath at my vet appointment but it would have been way too cold for him. We thought about ultra-sounding him but he was not hot swollen or tender to any certain palpation or flex test so my vet decided to pass for now. Maybe it is a tendon problem we are overlooking?
Main question is, does anyone have recommendations on what to look for so my vet and I can continue digging? I have another appointment here in a week. As I stated he is not lame, swollen or hot but most girls know when their horse is slightly off :) thanks in advance!
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Location: Arizona | Our his kidney's functioning properly?? |
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| LIVE2RUN - 2018-03-01 11:50 AM Our his kidney's functioning properly??
Kidneys was my initial thought too...although, it depends on where he is actually palpating sore/tender?
If you could elaborate on where you got the reaction, that would help.
Right side discomfort can be attributed to hind gut ulcers, as well. |
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Location: Iowa | It is more up over his loin/hip area! Glad you pointed that out, I never thought of it. How would I look into or treat kidney problems? |
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| Rausch_Jessica - 2018-03-01 11:58 AM It is more up over his loin/hip area! Glad you pointed that out, I never thought of it. How would I look into or treat kidney problems?
Do you stall or confine him at all...an easy way to tell if the kidneys are lacking is if he stocks up when confined. Unexplained tenderness up over his flanks/loin is another one. There are many other symptoms as well but those two are glaring red flags.
I have had excellent results with Silver Lining Herbs Kidney Support. I am currently trying Hilton Herbs Detox PLUS liquid on a new horse - it is super easy to use but I think I like the SLH better. I tried the Hilton product because I was looking for more of a liver product for this guy and the price tag was a lot more affordable than having to do both the kidney and liver products from SLH. |
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Location: Iowa | He is out on 3 acres of pasture but right now all the grass is covered in snow. He does stock up however when he is stalled! |
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| Have they done back xRays?
I have a gelding who was getting sore over his back in front of his hips, it was worse the day after we’d rope on him, but always there to some degree. He rested a back leg a lot and seemed to stand camped out quite a bit. Took him in and he flexed and trotted off sound every way you can flex a horse (I learned some new ways to flex that day too), no hoof soreness, nadda. Vet felt kidneys would show other signs that I wasn’t seeing as I threw that out there to her. Since I was there and the soreness was the worst in his back we went ahead and did and X-ray thinking an SI issue given the location of the soreness.
Kissing spines popped up clear as day.
We injected and he’s been awesome since, it’ll be a year in August. |
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Location: Iowa | OhMax - 2018-03-02 9:56 AM Have they done back xRays? I have a gelding who was getting sore over his back in front of his hips, it was worse the day after we’d rope on him, but always there to some degree. He rested a back leg a lot and seemed to stand camped out quite a bit. Took him in and he flexed and trotted off sound every way you can flex a horse (I learned some new ways to flex that day too), no hoof soreness, nadda. Vet felt kidneys would show other signs that I wasn’t seeing as I threw that out there to her. Since I was there and the soreness was the worst in his back we went ahead and did and X-ray thinking an SI issue given the location of the soreness. Kissing spines popped up clear as day. We injected and he’s been awesome since, it’ll be a year in August.
We have not done back x-rays! Interesting, I do not have an experience with Kissing Spine, but my gelding does show some of those same symptoms! |
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| Rausch_Jessica - 2018-03-02 10:26 AM
OhMax - 2018-03-02 9:56 AM Have they done back xRays? I have a gelding who was getting sore over his back in front of his hips, it was worse the day after we’d rope on him, but always there to some degree. He rested a back leg a lot and seemed to stand camped out quite a bit. Took him in and he flexed and trotted off sound every way you can flex a horse (I learned some new ways to flex that day too), no hoof soreness, nadda. Vet felt kidneys would show other signs that I wasn’t seeing as I threw that out there to her. Since I was there and the soreness was the worst in his back we went ahead and did and X-ray thinking an SI issue given the location of the soreness. Kissing spines popped up clear as day. We injected and he’s been awesome since, it’ll be a year in August.
We have not done back x-rays! Interesting, I do not have an experience with Kissing Spine, but my gelding does show some of those same symptoms! Â
I went in expecting something like sore hocks. I only knew about KS what I read here.
We’ve so far had really good luck with the injection, although that’s not been the case for all. The university we took him too offers a ligament release surgery that they’ve had good luck with too that is pretty reasonable and done outpatient. I’m going to start roping on this horse this spring and if he doesn’t sell we may look into the surgery when he needs injected again, just because a lot of folks don’t know anything about KS and it seems to be the stumbling point in his sale. He’s priced accordingly and I think if we did do the surgery and rehab him we could get our money back. |
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