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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-03-19 8:04 AM
Subject: Please share OCD experience


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please share your OCD experience. Good/ Bad/ Ugly. Riding soundness? Surgery? Supplements (OCD pellets, Equibone, etc..)? Breeding?

I am stuck with a mare that has an OCD lesion. It is bad enough she needs surgery to be able to be ridden (with a 65% chance of performing). I know 3 things: 1. This fillies dam performed and won lots of $, and the owner said her career was shortened by lameness 2. This filly and her dam were both fed high starch, high sugar diets, 3. This filly is 3yo and 16.1 so obviously grew really big, really fast.

I know that OCD is said to be hereditary, and I have considered putting the filly to sleep because she sounds like a pasture ornament. I am aware of the reality. I have also read a ton of information on how linked to diet it is. I also read a seminar on OCD that claims a lot of OCD comes from stallions (which is an interesting thought since no stallion owner -ever- is going to advertise that their stud is standing, and not competing, due to OCD). Oh, and I also read larger breeds of horses are more prone, like warmbloods, TBs etc.

If anyone is afraid of being flamed for their OP feel free to message me. I'm just trying to get more info on this. Please don't lecture me from an outside looking in point of view. Please understand that I did not buy this filly with this information or intention, and I have a hard time killing a happy "healthy" horse, but I also know she will be bred by SOMEONE if I get rid of her.
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-03-19 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: Please share OCD experience


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Do the surgery and manage it well....no big deal. Elgin is who I'd recommend.

Some horses run out over 300k and race until their 8 or 9 after having OCD lesions removed as yearlings or even weanlings.
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2018-03-19 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: Please share OCD experience


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Depends a lot on where it is. Hocks, I’ve had good luck with doing surgery and the horses have went on with little to no problem.
Stifles, it depends a lot on where and how severe the OCD is. More than one equine surgeon has told me stifle surgeries don’t have good odds for positive outcomes.
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halter_ego
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2018-03-19 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Please share OCD experience



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 I euthanized a very nice 2 year gelding last fall with a huge bone cycst/OCD in his stifle.  Surgery was an option, but only to make him pasture sound, no hope of a performance horse, and guarded prognosis for even a trail horse.  How does one make a two year a trail horse without training?  It broke my heart to do it, but I could not fathom feeding a horse for 20+ that would never have a purpose.  I, personally, would not breed a horse with known OCD, hereditary or not, it is not worth the chance.  
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-03-19 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: Please share OCD experience



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RoaniePonie11 - 2018-03-19 8:04 AM

please share your OCD experience. Good/ Bad/ Ugly. Riding soundness? Surgery? Supplements (OCD pellets, Equibone, etc..)? Breeding?

I am stuck with a mare that has an OCD lesion. It is bad enough she needs surgery to be able to be ridden (with a 65% chance of performing). I know 3 things: 1. This fillies dam performed and won lots of $, and the owner said her career was shortened by lameness 2. This filly and her dam were both fed high starch, high sugar diets, 3. This filly is 3yo and 16.1 so obviously grew really big, really fast.

I know that OCD is said to be hereditary, and I have considered putting the filly to sleep because she sounds like a pasture ornament. I am aware of the reality. I have also read a ton of information on how linked to diet it is. I also read a seminar on OCD that claims a lot of OCD comes from stallions (which is an interesting thought since no stallion owner -ever- is going to advertise that their stud is standing, and not competing, due to OCD). Oh, and I also read larger breeds of horses are more prone, like warmbloods, TBs etc.

If anyone is afraid of being flamed for their OP feel free to message me. I'm just trying to get more info on this. Please don't lecture me from an outside looking in point of view. Please understand that I did not buy this filly with this information or intention, and I have a hard time killing a happy "healthy" horse, but I also know she will be bred by SOMEONE if I get rid of her.

It has some form of hereditary link but no one knows how strong of one and who it comes from...so I would be hard pressed to blame either one of her parents because there's multiple factors that play into horses developing OCDs and/or subchondral bone cysts.

The way a horse is raised also plays a role, a big role, and I would honestly blame nutrition and over feeding more than I would genetics any day.


Where is the OCD located?
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BeanCounter
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2018-03-20 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Please share OCD experience




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Just my 2 cents......pass if the OCD is in the stifle. We had a very nice rodeo horse who was diagnosed with OCD in the stifle by Dr. Marty Tanner. We elected to do surgery (horse was insured). He had a complete year (12 months) of stall rest with quarterly check ups and stem cell at Elgin. He was kept on omeprazole and a bone density supplement. At a year he was cleared for rehab. We did three months of slow rehab to get him back in shape. Unfortunately, he only made it back for 5 runs and the arthritis from the OCD was too intense. He has been a happy pasture ornament for the last three years. The surgery is wonderful, but there is no guarantee that they will be completely sound after. I believe younger horses have done better with the procedure.
My advice is go in knowing this is a costly and long term investment. Not counting the medications and vet visits, the surgery and stem cell can add up.
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