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Location: Idaho | So I just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this, or has any ideas? I have rescued horses in the past and worked through certain things, but I know dog's have different mentalities that horses do.
So earlier this week we rescued a dog, from a not so nice owner. They wanted to get rid of her and basically told us if they didn't find a home for her asap that they would take her out to the desert and "take care" of her. So we said, sure we will take her. Afterwards I wasn't sure if they were bluffing just to get rid of her, but I really don't know.. don't care. She's in a better place.
We have renamed her Hailey, plan on getting her vaccines done and get fixed. She is a purebred aussie, super sweet, playful, and friendly. House trained, crate trained, knows basic commands. So far getting along with our other dog, they are pretty close in age only a few months apart. We do think she was neglected..I had to clean and sanitize her kennel because it smelled so bad. I bathed her on Friday and it smelled like she had been soaking in her own urine.. the smell coming off her was rancid, even had to toss out her collar because I couldn't get the smell out.. so we got her a new one. Also if you bring a hand over her she will lay down and cower, especially if she is in her kennel. She is underweight, which we are working on and giving her better food than what she came with.
We gave her an antler to chew on, which is a favorite amongst both the dogs. We have noticed she is a bit possessive when eating her food and over the antler when she's chewing on it. We have been taking it away when she does, tell her "bad" and then we put her in "time out" which was suggested to do when our dog was a puppy as they do not like it. We just put her in the laundry room for a few minutes to show her she is "in trouble" then let her out, give whatever she was possessve about back to her so she would associate.
Because that she was neglected, I understand that she is protective of her food. But is there a way to "correct" this behavior? She's not horribly mean and she doesn't seem to do it to us when we take stuff away from her, only to our other dog. I just don't want it to escalate. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | DashNDustem - 2018-04-08 3:04 PM So I just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this, or has any ideas? I have rescued horses in the past and worked through certain things, but I know dog's have different mentalities that horses do.
So earlier this week we rescued a dog, from a not so nice owner. They wanted to get rid of her and basically told us if they didn't find a home for her asap that they would take her out to the desert and "take care" of her. So we said, sure we will take her. Afterwards I wasn't sure if they were bluffing just to get rid of her, but I really don't know.. don't care. She's in a better place.
We have renamed her Hailey, plan on getting her vaccines done and get fixed. She is a purebred aussie, super sweet, playful, and friendly. House trained, crate trained, knows basic commands. So far getting along with our other dog, they are pretty close in age only a few months apart. We do think she was neglected..I had to clean and sanitize her kennel because it smelled so bad. I bathed her on Friday and it smelled like she had been soaking in her own urine.. the smell coming off her was rancid, even had to toss out her collar because I couldn't get the smell out.. so we got her a new one. Also if you bring a hand over her she will lay down and cower, especially if she is in her kennel. She is underweight, which we are working on and giving her better food than what she came with.
We gave her an antler to chew on, which is a favorite amongst both the dogs. We have noticed she is a bit possessive when eating her food and over the antler when she's chewing on it. We have been taking it away when she does, tell her "bad" and then we put her in "time out" which was suggested to do when our dog was a puppy as they do not like it. We just put her in the laundry room for a few minutes to show her she is "in trouble" then let her out, give whatever she was possessve about back to her so she would associate.
Because that she was neglected, I understand that she is protective of her food. But is there a way to "correct" this behavior? She's not horribly mean and she doesn't seem to do it to us when we take stuff away from her, only to our other dog. I just don't want it to escalate.
Awww shes a pretty one, glad that theres people out with a kind heart and will take these poor dogs in, so I vote you got a good/kind heart.. How old is she? She may already be set in how she behaves but I bet theres still room for improvement on her behavioral, just going to take awhile and some time. I rescued two winnie dogs two years ago and the younger one is more aggressive to the older one when it comes down to her bed and blankets but I just barley smack her on the her little bottom and tell her to cut it out, she just crawls under her blankets and lets the old lady share her bed.  | |
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| Years ago I picked up 2 puppies and a cat along the road. They were skinny and food aggressive. I've had them for around 12 years and they've never gotten over it. | |
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Location: Idaho | Southtxponygirl - 2018-04-09 1:39 PM
DashNDustem - 2018-04-08 3:04 PM So I just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this, or has any ideas? I have rescued horses in the past and worked through certain things, but I know dog's have different mentalities that horses do.
So earlier this week we rescued a dog, from a not so nice owner. They wanted to get rid of her and basically told us if they didn't find a home for her asap that they would take her out to the desert and "take care" of her. So we said, sure we will take her. Afterwards I wasn't sure if they were bluffing just to get rid of her, but I really don't know.. don't care. She's in a better place.
We have renamed her Hailey, plan on getting her vaccines done and get fixed. She is a purebred aussie, super sweet, playful, and friendly. House trained, crate trained, knows basic commands. So far getting along with our other dog, they are pretty close in age only a few months apart. We do think she was neglected..I had to clean and sanitize her kennel because it smelled so bad. I bathed her on Friday and it smelled like she had been soaking in her own urine.. the smell coming off her was rancid, even had to toss out her collar because I couldn't get the smell out.. so we got her a new one. Also if you bring a hand over her she will lay down and cower, especially if she is in her kennel. She is underweight, which we are working on and giving her better food than what she came with.
We gave her an antler to chew on, which is a favorite amongst both the dogs. We have noticed she is a bit possessive when eating her food and over the antler when she's chewing on it. We have been taking it away when she does, tell her "bad" and then we put her in "time out" which was suggested to do when our dog was a puppy as they do not like it. We just put her in the laundry room for a few minutes to show her she is "in trouble" then let her out, give whatever she was possessve about back to her so she would associate.
Because that she was neglected, I understand that she is protective of her food. But is there a way to "correct" this behavior? She's not horribly mean and she doesn't seem to do it to us when we take stuff away from her, only to our other dog. I just don't want it to escalate.
Aww thanks, I'd like to think I have a good heart? lol
She is about a year and 4 months. Our other dog that we have had since he was 5 weeks old is about a year and 7 months, so they are pretty close together. They get along great but that is the only thing we have noticed so far. And she doesn't go after him.. my husband said he saw her snap at the other dog when he came near her food. We are planning to talk to the vet about that also to see if there is anything we can do.
The only worry we have is that we will be planning to start a family in a couple years so we do not want any possessive behavior that may result in Hailey snapping at a baby because it wanted to play in the food bowl and take a toy away. Again she is not aggressive with us, just with our other dog so I'm not sure if there is noticeable association between the two.
I do have plans to keep her as she has really grown on me and she is becoming increasingly attached to us. Worst case scenario we would find her an amazing forever home that is suitable for her but I don't really see that happening as I would really like to keep her.
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Location: southeast Texas | Have you ever watched Cesar Malone the dog whisperer?
I've seen episodes that delt with thus exact behaviour | |
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Location: Idaho | roxieannie - 2018-04-09 2:15 PM
Have you ever watched Cesar Malone the dog whisperer?
I've seen episodes that delt with thus exact behaviour
I do not cable.. maybe I can check on youtube? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | 3TurnsonSpud - 2018-04-08 3:50 PM Years ago I picked up 2 puppies and a cat along the road. They were skinny and food aggressive. I've had them for around 12 years and they've never gotten over it.
The ones me and hubby rescued were running down the middle of a highway right on the white line and in the middle of summer, they must of have just come out of a creek bottom, cause they were really smelly,wet and scared, poor babys..Way do people do this kind of thing, just tugs ay my heart  | |
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Location: Dearing, GA | My suggestion would be to start feeding her in her kennel. Not only does this prevent other animals from messing with her, it also makes her kennel a safe space, which sounds like it wasn't in the past. Aussies are very smart, not sure if you've owned one before. I think letting her have her space and creating a safe haven for her will help a lot.
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | How does she do with a treat like a MilkBone? My dog, who I've had since she was a puppy, will go "feral" if she has an animal-sourced treat like a bone or a rawhide chew toy. Needless to say, she mostly just gets Old Mother Hubbard baked treats now! Edited to add, Bless you for rescuing her! She's beautiful!
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-04-08 3:29 PM 3TurnsonSpud - 2018-04-08 3:50 PM Years ago I picked up 2 puppies and a cat along the road. They were skinny and food aggressive. I've had them for around 12 years and they've never gotten over it. The ones me and hubby rescued were running down the middle of a highway right on the white line and in the middle of summer, they must of have just come out of a creek bottom, cause they were really smelly,wet and scared, poor babys..Way do people do this kind of thing, just tugs ay my heart
Oh I know... Makes me sooo mad. I live on a reservation and see starving dogs all of the time. So I either stop and pick them up or leave food. A rescue group started rescuing them 2 years ago. Between 2 reservations they have rescued over 5000 dogs and cats. So the starving population isn't as bad as it used to be. | |
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Location: Arkansas | Bless all of you for rescuing. They usually seem to know they were rescued and give extra love as appreciation. I am the accountant for a rural water association, and when our manager got sick and couldn't read the meters anymore, Sean and I took it over. We buy dog treats every month before the read date and take on the route. Any dog we see gets a treat, and the starving ones get handfuls. It is the part I hate worst about the job--seeing the chained/starved/no cover/cowering dogs. I could happily hit some folks. . . . It's not much, but we do what we can. I'd bring them all home with me if I could, but I'm animal poor!! We did ask one of the customers if we could have his dog (chained to a boat on about 3 foot chain, couldn't reach food or water, standing in his own waste, etc.) His answer was "oh no, my wife loves that dog so much she would never give him up". I stared at him with my mouth open. This was about 4 months ago. Each month he was thinner and Sean had to undo the chain from around the boat wheel every time. We read meters this weekend, and Buddy (dog's name) was gone; I feel sure he died. Upset me so bad I couldn't stand it. Why not give him to us???? People amaze me, and not always in a good way.
I agree with the kennel idea; that's the way I've always fed Allie. She is fine about everything with other dogs except her food, so the kennel is the answer for us.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2018-04-08 9:49 PM Bless all of you for rescuing. They usually seem to know they were rescued and give extra love as appreciation. I am the accountant for a rural water association, and when our manager got sick and couldn't read the meters anymore, Sean and I took it over. We buy dog treats every month before the read date and take on the route. Any dog we see gets a treat, and the starving ones get handfuls. It is the part I hate worst about the job--seeing the chained/starved/no cover/cowering dogs. I could happily hit some folks. . . . It's not much, but we do what we can. I'd bring them all home with me if I could, but I'm animal poor!! We did ask one of the customers if we could have his dog (chained to a boat on about 3 foot chain, couldn't reach food or water, standing in his own waste, etc.) His answer was "oh no, my wife loves that dog so much she would never give him up". I stared at him with my mouth open. This was about 4 months ago. Each month he was thinner and Sean had to undo the chain from around the boat wheel every time. We read meters this weekend, and Buddy (dog's name) was gone; I feel sure he died. Upset me so bad I couldn't stand it. Why not give him to us???? People amaze me, and not always in a good way. I agree with the kennel idea; that's the way I've always fed Allie. She is fine about everything with other dogs except her food, so the kennel is the answer for us.
Oh my Gosh I feel so bad reading that about boat dog, why in the he** do people do this cra*?!! Oh I just love Fluffy {straving} I could never get rid of Fluffy {straving} I love seeing Fluffy straving and chained up on a 3 foot chain. I'm like you some people amaze me in a horrible way  | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Yes the Kennel is the best thing out there, my two little rescue dogs stay in a larger one together as they were together when I found them and that is their nighttime place when its time to go to bed but all day they have the run of the yard and sometimes the younger one comes in to hang out with me and my inside little dog Dana {chihuahua} has her kennel she sleeps in at night, so theres no pee pee accident's.. | |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-04-08 10:13 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-04-08 9:49 PM Bless all of you for rescuing. They usually seem to know they were rescued and give extra love as appreciation. I am the accountant for a rural water association, and when our manager got sick and couldn't read the meters anymore, Sean and I took it over. We buy dog treats every month before the read date and take on the route. Any dog we see gets a treat, and the starving ones get handfuls. It is the part I hate worst about the job--seeing the chained/starved/no cover/cowering dogs. I could happily hit some folks. . . . It's not much, but we do what we can. I'd bring them all home with me if I could, but I'm animal poor!! We did ask one of the customers if we could have his dog (chained to a boat on about 3 foot chain, couldn't reach food or water, standing in his own waste, etc.) His answer was "oh no, my wife loves that dog so much she would never give him up". I stared at him with my mouth open. This was about 4 months ago. Each month he was thinner and Sean had to undo the chain from around the boat wheel every time. We read meters this weekend, and Buddy (dog's name) was gone; I feel sure he died. Upset me so bad I couldn't stand it. Why not give him to us???? People amaze me, and not always in a good way. I agree with the kennel idea; that's the way I've always fed Allie. She is fine about everything with other dogs except her food, so the kennel is the answer for us.
Oh my Gosh I feel so bad reading that about boat dog, why in the he** do people do this cra*?!! Oh I just love Fluffy {straving} I could never get rid of Fluffy {straving} I love seeing Fluffy straving and chained up on a 3 foot chain. I'm like you some people amaze me in a horrible way
I guess it's like the saying, Miss Roxie---you just can't fix stupid. . . . And it's the four legged babies that pay.
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| I look at possessiveness between dogs a little differently, most dogs aren't going to share their chew toy, bone, bed, food, whatever with another dog. It's not natural behavior for them and I've found it works better and is easier to insist on the other dogs not stealing from whoever has it first. I also don't have a problem with my dogs growling when another dog tries to steal from them, it's doggy communication and I've found that if you correct growling you lose the warning that there's something going on and it becomes harder to monitor. It's the same as trying to correct horses for pinning their ears at another horse at feed time, they need to communicate with each other. I do however correct the dog that's doing the stealing! Food bowls are not communal property between dogs and they shouldn't (IMO) be asked to tolerate another dog nosing around their food while they're eating. Also because I correct the thief their behavior never gets a chance to escalate, the dog that's being stolen from feels more secure since you have proven that you will take care of the situation for them, and everybody feels more secure knowing that you're the boss and you've got it handled.
My routine with my dogs at dinner is to make them sit, wait usually in their kennel, and then they each get a food bowl in front of their kennels and then they get told they can eat. They know who's bowl is who's and they know that when they finish they absolutely cannot go bother the other dogs bowl. Typically they finish and go back in their kennel and lay down. I think a similar routine would be helpful with your dogs. I've found that giving them structure around feeding time takes care of a lot of problems simply because they know what to expect.
While I have no problem with the dogs grumbling at each other, I don't tolerate it towards people at all! We are not dogs, and the standard of behavior that I expect towards humans is completely different. IE when my 7 month old nephew escapes his mom and crawls over to play with the dog food the dogs immediately stop eating and go lay down somewhere else. No growling or fussing or attitude of any kind is acceptable. Both of my dogs can be told no and will spit out whatever is in their mouth and go lay down. So just because they don't want other dogs stealing their stuff doesn't mean that possessiveness will be the same towards people. They can learn the difference. | |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | A big thing is to stay consistant in correction... so whatever word you decide to use, stick with it so she knows when you say BE NICE, stern and maybe even point a finger at her... when she is tell her she is good... it may take a little bit but if it is over food, I would separate her from the others. God Bless those who rescue...and I hope karma finds the old owners.... grrr | |
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