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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Edited to add can anyone answer a legal question for me? Let say i spend six weeks trying to locate the owners and can prove that with facebook posts etc. And we do not find them. Then we send him for training to be a service dog for a disabled toddler. Lets say he passes the tests and training and becomes a service dog, then either months or even years afterwards the previous owners finally come forwards. Can they legally take the dog back at that point? The dog will go through the shelter with an adoption app so there will be a paper trail. I just don't want to go that route if somebody can just come take their dog back.
I have spent countless hours and hours searching facebook, google, instagram, etc etc. I have posted on my facebook and two dozen pages/groups. The posts have been shared over 2,000 times. And still NOTHING. Somebody somewhere in this country has to be missing this dog!!!
He was found on 6/24 in a subdivision in Waynesville, Missouri. Near Fort Leonard Wood, and very close to Interstate 44. The finder posted in facebook multiple times and when I came across a post where she said she couldn't find an owner and needed to find him a home, I jumped in and she delivered him to me. I am fostering him through our local shelter, Loving Paws. I am going to spend the next few weeks exhausting every avenue to locate his humans, if they are even missing him.
We call him "Charlie". He is young. Most likely around a year old. Still has puppy fuzz but appears to be maturing. Black try, about 40 to 45 pounds with prick ears so I believe he may very well be an oversized mini. He is perfec in conformation etc so I believe he is either very well bred or someone just got lucky. He is intact, he is very well trained. He has absolutely no fleas or ticks so somebody has him on prevention. He has obviously never been mistreated and is a lover. Crate trained, house trained. He is a chewer and reactive to strangers (growls and barks while backing away but not aggressive) so maybe that's why someone didn't want him. No collar, no ID, no microchip.
My biggest concern is that he was stolen anywhere in the United States and we just aren't looking in the right state for his humans. But I know one thing, if this was my dog I would turn this earth inside out to find him, he is that nice. So I am trying to share him with as many people as possible. I can be found on facebook if anyone wants to share his post there, Robinson TL JP, [email protected]. We are NOT currently looking for a home for him. If we cannot find his humans he will be evaluated by a professional trainer as a potential service dog for my friends disabled toddler. If he fails, there is already a waiting list of interested parties. However, since I am his foster, I will be the one reviewing potential homes. So I am letting people know if they are interested, to fill out an application with LPAC if/when he becomes available. LPAC has a five day hold anyways that only started Thursday when I signed him in with them.
Sorry for the mini novel, but i am passionate about finding his humans. I would be devastated if somebody had my dog and didn't give me a chance to find him!
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 Quarter Horse HIstorian
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | He is a beautiful dog and bless you for taking such an interest in him. You’ve always had a great heart! |
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Location: Kansas | I have no anwers for you. Bless you for helping. Have you checked (I'm sure you have) for a tatoo (ear or belly)? If the dog was in a shelter originally (before) they usually make a mark for spay / neuter. Again thank you for helping this pup.
?Edited to add: would the netposse site be of any assistance in locating owners since it is a working type dog??
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Â Here is my thoughts. If i went thru all the work you have. They would have to spend a lot of money on legal fees to prove it was their dog in the first place. |
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 Horsey Gene Carrier
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Location: LaBelle, Florida | Have someone scan him for a chip if you haven't already. I would say you have gone above an beyond for finding his previous owners.
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| BS Hauler - 2018-06-30 10:07 PM
 Here is my thoughts. If i went thru all the work you have. They would have to spend a lot of money on legal fees to prove it was their dog in the first place.
I’m not so sure about that.....I had a dog go missing in 2010. He was 2 years old. I still have his registration papers and TONS of pictures from the time we brought him home. Vet records. He’s microchipped (so likely he was stolen rather than “lost”). I feel it would be very easy to prove he was my dog in the first place if he turned up somewhere even now.
That being said - you have done everything you can to find the owners (assuming you had him scanned for a chip). If you contacted vet offices and animal shelters and reporting him as found....there’s nothing else you can do.
If the dog isn’t chipped, have it done and THEN it would be very difficult for them to regain ownership, if they even care.
Sounds to me like the owners aren’t going to come forward. I also have a disabled daughter and know how valuable service dogs are. I think it’s a wonderful idea for the 2 year old!!!!!! |
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One Grateful Mom
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Location: wolverton,mn | I don’t think enough time has been given. There are situations that happen to people and animals. Who knows what the story is.
Give it time |
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| Your local animal shelter will be able to tell you legally how much time you have to spend to find the owner. I looked for the owners of a dog that I found for over 3 months. When I called they told me that I only had to try for 7 days. I had her fixed and found her another home after that. |
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Location: N Texas | Our local shelter holds animals for I believe 48 hours and if no one comes forward, they come up for adoption. If they are adopted out, the new owners own that dog and the previous owners cannot take it back. I've seen so many stories of dogs being adopted from shelters, only to have the previous owner come forward trying to reclaim it, and the new owner won't give it up. And they don't have to. It's up to the new owner to decide if they want to return it.
So in your case, you've done everything you can. If the dog is adopted out to a new family through a legitimate group, even if the original owner finds out, they can't just come get the dog. They might try to take them to court to get it back, if they're that desperate, but it's unlikely they'll win since so much time has passed. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | hotbear03 - 2018-07-02 2:06 AM I don’t think enough time has been given. There are situations that happen to people and animals. Who knows what the story is. Give it time
His facebook post was shared over 5000 times and I spent roughly twenty hours altogether searching the internet, facebook, instagram, making phone calls, emailing breeders, etc etc. That is way above and beyond. It's not my job to find the owner, it's their job to find their dog.
Unfortunately, after all that and three weeks, not a single person came forwards and nobody recognized him. I thought for sure we would at least find a breeder that would recognize him.
He was neutered last week, vaccinated, and updated on heartworm meds, and nexguard. He was never publicly offered for adoption because he had a waiting list of people that saw all the past shares. He is now happy in his new home with a retired couple and a ten month old Aussie brother. The couple also has a 9 year old grandson! |
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Location: Arkansas | missroselee - 2018-07-29 11:26 AM
hotbear03 - 2018-07-02 2:06 AM I don’t think enough time has been given. There are situations that happen to people and animals. Who knows what the story is. Give it time
His facebook post was shared over 5000 times and I spent roughly twenty hours altogether searching the internet, facebook, instagram, making phone calls, emailing breeders, etc etc. Â That is way above and beyond. Â It's not my job to find the owner, it's their job to find their dog.
Unfortunately, after all that and three weeks, not a single person came forwards and nobody recognized him. Â I thought for sure we would at least find a breeder that would recognize him.
He was neutered last week, vaccinated, and updated on heartworm meds, and nexguard. Â He was never publicly offered for adoption because he had a waiting list of people that saw all the past shares. Â He is now happy in his new home with a retired couple and a ten month old Aussie brother. Â The couple also has a 9 year old grandson! Â Â
You did more than needed in my opinion (for what that's worth!!) and you did a great service for this baby. Good for you  |
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