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| Who has had good results? Cinchy, sensitive to touch, reactive to pressure on "ulcer points". Treatment with Gastrogard isn't an option. |
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Location: North Dakota | You are going to get alot of replies that gastro-plex is a preventative not a treatment. This is true but the most important part of getting the gut back to good health is to make sure your feeding program isn't causing the problems in the first place. Reduce grain amounts and increase forage.
If you can't afford gastrogard, which isn't the only option to treat ulcers. Yes it is the only FDA approved drug but that doesn't mean it is the only option. I would look into THE GastroPlus. They have proven results with scope images on their website of horses that have used GastroPlus. |
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| She's on 24/7 turnout, free choice hay, Triple Crown Balancer, beet pulp, flax, and a handful of alfalfa cubes. She does best on a daily supplement and improved drastically on Daily Gold, but I was told that impaction is a concern with DG. Her symptoms went away completely within 3 weeks of using that product and they stayed away the entire time we used it. I was told this is safer, though vastly more expensive. I'll look into the THE. |
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Location: Minnesota | I use it before every run with sucess. I tried Daily Gold before using Gasto Plex and never noticed a difference. I have taken Gastro Plex myself and it actually helps calm my jitters before a run :) |
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| BayRoan - 2018-09-01 3:34 PM
She's on 24/7 turnout, free choice hay, Triple Crown Balancer, beet pulp, flax, and a handful of alfalfa cubes. She does best on a daily supplement and improved drastically on Daily Gold, but I was told that impaction is a concern with DG. Her symptoms went away completely within 3 weeks of using that product and they stayed away the entire time we used it. I was told this is safer, though vastly more expensive. I'll look into the THE.
I had a gelding colic with impaction few years ago due to the daily gold. My vet looked at the ingredients and agreed that it would pull moisture from the gut and create a clay like goo that might cause it. I stopped using it and no more problems. I now use GASTRIX liquid with awesome results. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | BayRoan - 2018-09-01 4:34 PM She's on 24/7 turnout, free choice hay, Triple Crown Balancer, beet pulp, flax, and a handful of alfalfa cubes. She does best on a daily supplement and improved drastically on Daily Gold, but I was told that impaction is a concern with DG. Her symptoms went away completely within 3 weeks of using that product and they stayed away the entire time we used it. I was told this is safer, though vastly more expensive. I'll look into the THE.
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| I have used Renitidine in the past with great success instead of Gastrogard. You can get a couple of bottles of it at Sam’s for about $20. Can’t remember the amount I fed daily. I think I used to feed 10 tablets in the morning and 10 at noon night for ten days. That is what I found when googled |
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| I went through 3 mos worth of gastroplex and didn’t notice a difference. I give aloe and herbs and then just keep him on ulcergard only when I haul. So far so good. I was told I don’t need to have him on ulcergard when he’s on pasture which is 24/7 at home. I have given daily gold to a mare I don’t run anymore and I never noticed a difference. In fact I think she went backwards it kinda was the worst thing I did. Aloe helped her a ton. I was also told by a Vet you have to have something to cool down the ulcers like pepto or aloe. I was also told to feed Purina outlast by another vet I like it. I feed alfalfa based feed with flax and rice bran on top of that. Not a lot of supplements I just give adequan or legend. I think on ulcer prone horses it’s best to stay away from joint supplements unless it’s HA or given IM or IV. Just my 2 cents worth or what I’ve learned. I keep it simple. |
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Location: South Georgia | I'm a little frustrated. I treated with 28 days Abgard (omperazole) and horse was great at end of treatment. At about the 2 week mark of treatment, I started feeding GastroPlex (MVP) and continue to do so. We are at about 30 days now on Gastroplex and he seems to be having ulcer symptoms again. I am not sure which way to go now. Treat with omeprazole again for a couple weeks? I board, so I cant change feed. He's on pasture all but 2 hours a day (1 hour at each feeding in his stall). Has hay in front of him at all times during the day. He's not being hauled or hardly worked. I just keep having reoccurrences. I thought the Gastroplex would sustain him after treatment, but it's not looking like it. |
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| My husbands ulcer prone gelding is what sold me on MVP products. His gelding had issues with many of the things you mentioned - cinchy, sensitive, began developing gate issues, reluctant to run. Within weeks of being on GastroPlex he was a whole new horse with an entire different attitude. Not only that, but I started seeing changes in his physical appearance that I didn't even realize was needing improvement. I keep all my horses in training or hauling in competition on Gastro-Plex since.
Gastro-Plex cannot replace omeprazole, but it will stabilize the gut pH and gut flora, improve digestion, sustain appetite, and Gastro-Plex contains Levucell yeast, which is clinically researched and proven to have efficacy in the hind gut. |
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| I would look into a compounded omeprazole. There are several compounding pharmacies that would just take a script from your vet. I get mine through my vet for about $150/30 days.
Otherwise you can try ranitidine (generic Zantac) at 3,000mg every 12ish hours. Just drop the pills in his feed and they’ll eat it right up.
Omeprazole is better because it’s a protein pump inhibitor, reduces all acid and works longer (also takes longer to work). Ranitidine gets about 70% of the acid because it only inhibits one type of acid and does not stay in the system as long.
Anyhow. I’ve never tried the THE but I hear good things.
I have a very ulcer prone horse (who is out 24/7 on grass, doesn’t even get grain, just alfalfa). I used gastroplex for nearly 2 years and gave omeprazole the weeks we ran with great success. Unfortunately, he relapsed so I’m changing my approach.
I’m running him through 30 days omeprazole, keeping him on herbs from Equine Natural Care and using Performance Pro Probiotics. The herbs because I really do believe they help ease stomach pain and the Performance Probiotics because they are microencapsulated and will travel all the way through.
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